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Reply #90 posted 06/27/18 10:37am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

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SCOTUS ruled that a bakery did not have to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.


The Red Hen has the right to refuse service to anyone. The business serves the public but is privatley owned.

SHS
gets up on that podium everyday and LIES. Furthere to that, she defends the LIES that our current President spews on a daily basis. She is hypocrite because she "claims" to be a Christian. She was politley asked to leave the restaurant and she left.

I have no problem with what the owner of The Red Hen did. I personaly boycotted one of my favorite restaurants for supporting Prop 8 in California. I politley wrote the owner a letter saying I would no longer patronize a business that financially supported a law which was discriminatory to people based on their sexual preference. Was I discriminating? You bet I was.



Yep. That's truly awful.

Like it or not it is a law - legally, the Red Hen did nothing wrong. If you do to want to serve someone who LIES every day to the public - then you do not have to. It is a form of protest as was my boycott of a restaurant.







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Reply #91 posted 06/27/18 11:19am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



Yep. That's truly awful.

Like it or not it is a law - legally, the Red Hen did nothing wrong. If you do to want to serve someone who LIES every day to the public - then you do not have to. It is a form of protest as was my boycott of a restaurant.







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I didn't like it when it was done to gays and don't like it when it's done to anyone else. I can choose not to visit any establishment as a form of protest, but denying other people service is completely different and in my opinion horrible.

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Reply #92 posted 06/27/18 11:34am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

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Like it or not it is a law - legally, the Red Hen did nothing wrong. If you do to want to serve someone who LIES every day to the public - then you do not have to. It is a form of protest as was my boycott of a restaurant.







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I didn't like it when it was done to gays and don't like it when it's done to anyone else. I can choose not to visit any establishment as a form of protest, but denying other people service is completely different and in my opinion horrible.

In my opinion it is more horrible to spew lies to the public, the press and defend a lying bigotted president. SHS can eat somewhere else - we are stuck with a lying administration.

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Reply #93 posted 06/27/18 11:44am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



Ugot2shakesumthin said:




DiminutiveRocker said:




Like it or not it is a law - legally, the Red Hen did nothing wrong. If you do to want to serve someone who LIES every day to the public - then you do not have to. It is a form of protest as was my boycott of a restaurant.










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I didn't like it when it was done to gays and don't like it when it's done to anyone else. I can choose not to visit any establishment as a form of protest, but denying other people service is completely different and in my opinion horrible.




In my opinion it is more horrible to spew lies to the public, the press and defend a lying bigotted president. SHS can eat somewhere else - we are stuck with a lying administration.



But don’t you see you are defending a wrong because of another wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Reply #94 posted 06/27/18 12:02pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

In my opinion it is more horrible to spew lies to the public, the press and defend a lying bigotted president. SHS can eat somewhere else - we are stuck with a lying administration.

But don’t you see you are defending a wrong because of another wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.

I submit you are the one defending the wrong.

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Reply #95 posted 06/27/18 12:04pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

In my opinion it is more horrible to spew lies to the public, the press and defend a lying bigotted president. SHS can eat somewhere else - we are stuck with a lying administration.

But don’t you see you are defending a wrong because of another wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.

But many of us don't see cordially asking someone to leave a restaurant as wrong....it is not because of Suckabee Sanders' beliefs or opinions, but because of her ACTIONS. And actions always have consequences. The consequence of repeatedly defending and lying for the inhumane and bigoted Trump administration is being shunned by decent people ...remember, Suckabee Sanders said that ALL the women who accused Trump of unwanted sexual advances and assault were LIARS. Just one of her many acts of evil complicity

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Reply #96 posted 06/27/18 12:34pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

DiminutiveRocker said: But don’t you see you are defending a wrong because of another wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.

I submit you are the one defending the wrong.

agree to disagree.

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Reply #97 posted 06/27/18 1:09pm

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Secret Service has now been upped around Sarah's house.

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Reply #98 posted 06/27/18 2:39pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:




Ugot2shakesumthin said:




I'm with you there. But kinda hypocritical when you say you condone the refusal of service to gays or pharmacists or even this restaurant's behavior.





I assume you mean "you" as in geneal as I have never condoned any of it.




Up in the thread you said you condoned the refusal of service?




not exactly condoning, what I said wasI did not like it but that kicking her out Falls Within their first amendment protection as well as General private property rights.
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Reply #99 posted 06/27/18 5:51pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

DiminutiveRocker said: But don’t you see you are defending a wrong because of another wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.

But many of us don't see cordially asking someone to leave a restaurant as wrong....it is not because of Suckabee Sanders' beliefs or opinions, but because of her ACTIONS. And actions always have consequences. The consequence of repeatedly defending and lying for the inhumane and bigoted Trump administration is being shunned by decent people ...remember, Suckabee Sanders said that ALL the women who accused Trump of unwanted sexual advances and assault were LIARS. Just one of her many acts of evil complicity


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Reply #100 posted 06/27/18 7:59pm

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Sarah Suckabee Sanders's lovely "religious" father:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

Former Arkansas Republican governor Mike Huckabee is facing allegations of racism after he tweeted a photo on Saturday of five men who appear to be using hand signs associated with the MS-13 gang with the caption, "Nancy Pelosi introduces her campaign committee for the take back of the House."

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Reply #101 posted 06/28/18 4:47am

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Sarah Suckabee Sanders's lovely "religious" father:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

Former Arkansas Republican governor Mike Huckabee is facing allegations of racism after he tweeted a photo on Saturday of five men who appear to be using hand signs associated with the MS-13 gang with the caption, "Nancy Pelosi introduces her campaign committee for the take back of the House."

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Reply #102 posted 06/28/18 6:20am

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No one specifically said race was a factor. Just that they had to be patrons. First Amendment, private property and all that.

Slippery slope.
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I would think anyone with any consciousness would know that two White women would not have had the cops called on them for "loitering" after 2 minutes in an establishment.

And I still don't see a problem with asking Suckabee Sanders to leave a restaurant, based on her actions. As the Bible says, You reap what you Sow...

Not sure if this helps, and I’m not condoning that anyone should be kicked out of a public space based on their political views, but I think the fact that many Americans were more upset with her lack of empathy for the children being penalized by holding them hostage, and ripped from their parents because their parents crossed the border, including her being known for her history of constant lying for the President, was more about what was behind why she was asked to leave, moreso than just her political views.

Also, the owner probably didn’t want patrons causing a ruckus, and then being responsible or sued if one of the patrons, tried to approach her, and then Sarah possibly accusing them and the owner of physical harm/threats. Even if a patron approached her table to ask her about the children held hostage, with no intent to harm, she would have found some way to assume that they had intent to harm, and that’s just based on her history of callousness and exaggerating trump’s lies

There was probably anti-trump and trump supporters in the restaurant, who were concerned about the children being held hostage, but she would have definitely blamed it on anti-trumpers just to get trump’s attention and show her loyalty to him, with just another opportunity to feed trump’s same angst to his base, regarding anti-trumpers.
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Reply #103 posted 06/28/18 6:27am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



jjhunsecker said:


Sarah Suckabee Sanders's lovely "religious" father:



https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html




Former Arkansas Republican governor Mike Huckabee is facing allegations of racism after he tweeted a photo on Saturday of five men who appear to be using hand signs associated with the MS-13 gang with the caption, "Nancy Pelosi introduces her campaign committee for the take back of the House."





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I’m not surprised. He just showed who he truly is by posting that image. It amazes how so many of his type think America is their original homeland. NOT.
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Reply #104 posted 06/28/18 6:39am

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Reply #105 posted 06/28/18 8:25am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:
I would think anyone with any consciousness would know that two White women would not have had the cops called on them for "loitering" after 2 minutes in an establishment. And I still don't see a problem with asking Suckabee Sanders to leave a restaurant, based on her actions. As the Bible says, You reap what you Sow...

Not sure if this helps, and I’m not condoning that anyone should be kicked out of a public space based on their political views, but I think the fact that many Americans were more upset with her lack of empathy for the children being penalized by holding them hostage, and ripped from their parents because their parents crossed the border, including her being known for her history of constant lying for the President, was more about what was behind why she was asked to leave, moreso than just her political views.

Also, the owner probably didn’t want patrons causing a ruckus, and then being responsible or sued if one of the patrons, tried to approach her, and then Sarah possibly accusing them and the owner of physical harm/threats. Even if a patron approached her table to ask her about the children held hostage, with no intent to harm, she would have found some way to assume that they had intent to harm, and that’s just based on her history of callousness and exaggerating trump’s lies. There was probably anti-trump and trump supporters in the restaurant, who were concerned about the children being held hostage, but she would have definitely blamed it on anti-trumpers just to get trump’s attention and show her loyalty to him, with just another opportunity to feed trump’s same angst to his base, regarding anti-trumpers.


Great points. Hadn't thought of what could have happened at the Hen if Sanders stayed. Very possible she wouldn't have gotten to be a "regular patron" without protest/disruption. Things could have escalated even more than denying her service.

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Reply #106 posted 06/28/18 8:51am

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2elijah said:

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I would think anyone with any consciousness would know that two White women would not have had the cops called on them for "loitering" after 2 minutes in an establishment.

And I still don't see a problem with asking Suckabee Sanders to leave a restaurant, based on her actions. As the Bible says, You reap what you Sow...

Not sure if this helps, and I’m not condoning that anyone should be kicked out of a public space based on their political views, but I think the fact that many Americans were more upset with her lack of empathy for the children being penalized by holding them hostage, and ripped from their parents because their parents crossed the border, including her being known for her history of constant lying for the President, was more about what was behind why she was asked to leave, moreso than just her political views.

Also, the owner probably didn’t want patrons causing a ruckus, and then being responsible or sued if one of the patrons, tried to approach her, and then Sarah possibly accusing them and the owner of physical harm/threats. Even if a patron approached her table to ask her about the children held hostage, with no intent to harm, she would have found some way to assume that they had intent to harm, and that’s just based on her history of callousness and exaggerating trump’s lies

There was probably anti-trump and trump supporters in the restaurant, who were concerned about the children being held hostage, but she would have definitely blamed it on anti-trumpers just to get trump’s attention and show her loyalty to him, with just another opportunity to feed trump’s same angst to his base, regarding anti-trumpers.
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I agree. It's not about her (or anyone's) beliefs, but about their ACTIONS. The same way I would be OK with similar treatment being given to Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby or David Duke or Jason Kessler
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Reply #107 posted 06/28/18 9:01am

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Wow just wow. I was on topic but just inconvenient for some of you. Not snipped, some but cut out completely. Just wow

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Reply #108 posted 07/02/18 6:06am

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2elijah said:


Not sure if this helps, and I’m not condoning that anyone should be kicked out of a public space based on their political views, but I think the fact that many Americans were more upset with her lack of empathy for the children being penalized by holding them hostage, and ripped from their parents because their parents crossed the border, including her being known for her history of constant lying for the President, was more about what was behind why she was asked to leave, moreso than just her political views.

Also, the owner probably didn’t want patrons causing a ruckus, and then being responsible or sued if one of the patrons, tried to approach her, and then Sarah possibly accusing them and the owner of physical harm/threats. Even if a patron approached her table to ask her about the children held hostage, with no intent to harm, she would have found some way to assume that they had intent to harm, and that’s just based on her history of callousness and exaggerating trump’s lies

There was probably anti-trump and trump supporters in the restaurant, who were concerned about the children being held hostage, but she would have definitely blamed it on anti-trumpers just to get trump’s attention and show her loyalty to him, with just another opportunity to feed trump’s same angst to his base, regarding anti-trumpers.
[Edited 6/28/18 6:25am]


I agree. It's not about her (or anyone's) beliefs, but about their ACTIONS. The same way I would be OK with similar treatment being given to Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby or David Duke or Jason Kessler

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:
I agree. It's not about her (or anyone's) beliefs, but about their ACTIONS. The same way I would be OK with similar treatment being given to Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby or David Duke or Jason Kessler
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