214 said:

Empress said:

This is a very racist statement. It's the same as saying all Mexicans are rapists and thugs. Not all Germans are shitty people as you put it. There are good and bad in every single race and in every country in this world.

Of course not all of them, not even most of them. but indeed lots of them. Specially back in the 30's when they supported such an eveil man like Hitler and of his evil buddies.

Well, that's not what you said. Your original statement pretty much puts all Germans as Nazi lover's and this simply was not true. Granted, many didn't give a rats ass what happened to the Jews, but there were also many that were scared and didn't know what to do. Many did not love Hilter either.

hausofmoi7 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I wouldn't call it a sub culture, to me it seems like that germany is still like a nazi state and that the fascists have been hiding behind the mask of democracy and liberalism. And now that we have this new nazi partie they show their true colors. These aren't just nazis, they don't only wish back the third reich, they believe we still live in it and a lot of them are what I'd call militant, they own a lot of guns, illegal of course from the dark net. They are attacking cops and a lot of them are cops, they don't accept the BRD as a free state and it's not a low number of people either. Is it still a sub culture when the nazis are figures who represent the state and the law inforcement? Or when liberals get kicked in the face by the cops when sitting on train tracks because they want to stop the cops from taking a student (who happened to be a refugee) out of school because some asshat decided he's not allowed to be here? While nazis are being escorted by the police without being touched by them, they are safe unless we, their enemies as they like to call the liberals, see them.

Of course people would say this is just my opinion and they have every right to do so, but I've witnessed a lot to doubt that this is a just a sub culture.

Thanks for the insight into your country on this issue. That was really informative. By the way, you seem like a very nice person. For what it's worth. . [Edited 5/15/18 7:27am]

Well thanks, I try my best

NorthC said:

The thing is, a lot of asylum seekers aren't refugees at all. A lot of them come from countries like Algeria and Morocco who have no chance of getting refugee status and know it, but they try anyway. And they can't be sent back, because the countries of origin aren't helping. And some of them do cause trouble. Remember New Year's Eve in Cologne? So I don't think it's just a problem of white racism. Unfortunately, some people cannot or will not make the difference between these immigrants who just want to try their luck and real refugees. People who flee from a war zone should always have a right to stay here, but that doesn't mean everybody who comes to Europe can stay. This is one of the big problems of today and we cannot blame it all on racism. It's more complicated than that.

I see it different, I don't think any person is in the position to tell a person where they can stay or not. I don't think they have to come from a war zone to be allowed to stay here, I think everybody is allowed to live where they chose to. 'Cause I got the same right. And just because they don't live in war zones doesn't mean that they live better lifes there, most of them try their luck because they get better money for the same job in other countries.

Oh and I might add: The most troublemakers, at least here in germany, are still germans And every comment against the immigrants that comes from germans, is because of the color of the immigrants, trust me, I see it everyday.

[Edited 5/16/18 7:03am]

[Edited 5/16/18 7:06am]

Buck up.

NorthC said:

The thing is, a lot of asylum seekers aren't refugees at all. A lot of them come from countries like Algeria and Morocco who have no chance of getting refugee status and know it, but they try anyway. And they can't be sent back, because the countries of origin aren't helping. And some of them do cause trouble. Remember New Year's Eve in Cologne? So I don't think it's just a problem of white racism. Unfortunately, some people cannot or will not make the difference between these immigrants who just want to try their luck and real refugees. People who flee from a war zone should always have a right to stay here, but that doesn't mean everybody who comes to Europe can stay. This is one of the big problems of today and we cannot blame it all on racism. It's more complicated than that.

Would the offenders be reported if they were white? Because I know there are sex offenders among white men who are never reported. A few years ago, I was scrolling down the FB confessions page of my high school and someone said: "When I stand behind female schoolmates, I slap their butts." And everyone reacting to the post found it funny

And more hypocrisy...

A few years ago, there was a TV debate in my country about Islam. One of the debaters was a crazy man who advocated for lower testimony weight of women in court because of menstruation. He was (IMO rightly) humiliated because of that. However, when you open Czech internet discussions that talk about women you have men (most likely non-Muslims) who say things like: "Women shouldn't be politicians, because they menstruate and therefore are hysterical and irrational." And these posts receive lots of thums up

FullLipsDotNose said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

NorthC said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Sharp increase in refugee suicides in Hesse, Germany http://www.infomigrants.n...se-germany The number of refugees attempting suicide in Germany's central state of Hesse is on the rise. The Left Party parliamentary group attributes the increase to dire conditions in asylum centers and an increased threat of deportation. Hesse's state government says there are exemplary psychosocial care programs in place. Frankfurt airport is Germany's main transit hub. Many rejected asylum seekers, forced to leave the country, are returned on flights leaving from here. While waiting for their return flights, they are placed in accommodation in a special transit zone. This is where many suicide attempts and acts of self-harm take place. A total of 70 asylum seekers attempted to kill or harm themselves in the state of Hesse last year, 18 of those in the airport transit zone. Four committed suicide, with one case taking place at the airport.

It's Hessen. They can't even spell the name right in their fake news article.

If you go to the source (see their link in the atricle) a report from the Hessen State Governmenmt, it says this:

Suizide
Für den Zeitraum 2000 bis 2017 sind zwei Suizide im Transitbereich des Frankfurter Flughafens bekannt. In einem Fall erhängte sich eine weibliche Person aus Algerien im Jahr 2000. Der zweite Fall betrifft den unter Frage 1 erwähnten chinesischen Asylbewerber aus dem Jahr 2017.

Translated:

Suicides
In the time between 2000 and 2017, 2 suicides have been recorded in the transit area of the Frankfurt Airport. In one case a female from Algeria comitted suicide by hanging herself in 2000. The 2nd case was the Chinese asylum seeker, mentioned under question 1, in 2017

ThatWhiteDude said:

A refugee here in germany fell down his balcony and died and people were laughing, cheering, they said things like: "So what? This is no loss for germany!" Just cruel comments, because he wasn't born here and because he wasn't white And then some orger here wanted to tell me that it's not about their skin color, it is, you wouldn't mind the refugees if they were white and people wouldn't write such disgusting things either! They don't care for them, they see them as "better apes". And the thing is, I feel like it's getting worse everyday! I'm so tired of seeing this nazi shit! I'm tired of germany, tired of the nazis, tired of their racist shit! The comment sections on FB were full of them you didn't even stand a chance when you tried to go against them. Sometimes I wish the berlin wall never fell, 'cause that's were these bastards were coming from! I'm ashamed to be german, I hope the family and friends of this poor soul didn't read these disgusting comments!

How can people be so heartless? But I guess these people were raised to believe that people with brown skin are worthless, the typical nazi shit. I'm so tired of it, 'cause I can't believe that people can be so cruel, although I see and hear it everyday.

Does anyone force you to stay in Germany?

ThatWhiteDude said:

I say that germany is still a nazi state.

[Snip - luv4u]

ThatWhiteDude said:

But I promise myself that one day, I'll have the money to leave that nazi shithole behind.

I'll sponsor.
I'd pay for a train ticket to Amsterdam. One way. You will feel at home there. You'll be among same minded victim role adopters and racism card pulling whiners.

ThatWhiteDude said:

NorthC said:

Actually, it took a few days before the news came out and that was because the men who did this were immigrants. Authoroties tried to keep it quiet because they were worried about accusations of racism if they said that it was men from North-Africa who molested women. The fear of being labeled "racist" is almost as dangerous as racism itself, because it means that all critical thoughts about what immigrants/minorities might do wrong is smothered by shouting "racism! Islamophobia!"

I'm curious where you heard of that, Russia Today?

There was an official investigation about what happenend in Cologne and the aftermath by the Untersuchungsausschuss des Landtags.

Since you understand German:

Die Pressemitteilung der Kölner Polizei vom Neujahrsmorgen, in der von "ausgelassener Stimmung" die Rede ist, markiert den Anfang eines Debakels, das bis heute andauert. Sie ist mangelhafter Kommunikation geschuldet, Sprecherin Martina Kaiser weiß am Morgen schlicht nichts von den sexuellen Übergriffen. Im Laufe des 1. Januar trudeln Informationen ein, trotzdem berichtet die Pressestelle erst am 2. Januar darüber. Kaiser bittet später um Versetzung, entschuldigt sich bei den Opfern. Es hilft nichts: An den Behörden klebt seither der Vorwurf, sie hätten etwas verschweigen wollen.

So geht der Untersuchungsausschuss des Landtags etwa bis heute einem mysteriösen, von zwei Kölner Polizisten bezeugten Anruf nach, der aus der Landesleitstelle gekommen sei und in dem am 1. Januar darum gebeten worden sei, den Begriff "Vergewaltigung" aus einer Polizeimeldung zur Silvesternacht zu streichen.

Der 4. Januar, ein Montag, ist der Tag, an dem alles zu kippen beginnt. Übers Wochenende sind kaum Artikel über die Silvesternacht erschienen, und die wenigen, die es gibt, beschreiben nicht das gesamte Ausmaß, von 30 bis 50 Krawallmachern ist die Rede. Am 4. Januar wird der Polizei die Dimension allmählich klar; über 90 Anzeigen liegen mittlerweile vor.

Jetzt geht es Schlag auf Schlag. Der Kölner Polizeipräsident Wolfgang Albers berichtet von Straftaten "völlig neuer Dimension" und von Tätern, die nordafrikanisch aussähen. NRW-Innenminister Jäger erklärt, ebenfalls am 4. Januar, gegenüber Kölner Zeitungen: Man werde nicht hinnehmen, dass sich nordafrikanische Männergruppen organisieren, um wehrlose Frauen mit sexuellen Attacken zu erniedrigen. Vor dem Bahnhof gibt der CDU-Innenexperte Gregor Golland als erster Landtagsabgeordneter ein Fernsehinterview: "Ich wusste da schon aus internen Quellen bei der Polizei, dass die Täter Flüchtlinge waren, und habe das auch benannt", erinnert er sich stolz. Und zwar zu einem Zeitpunkt, als führende Politiker und der Polizeipräsident noch behauptet hätten, das dürfe man doch nicht so sagen, das wisse man noch gar nicht.

Tatsächlich erklärt am 5. Januar Polizeipräsident Albers: "Wir haben derzeit keine Erkenntnisse über die Täter." Er will korrekt sein, es gibt schließlich noch keine Festgenommenen. Und Oberbürgermeisterin Henriette Rekersagt: "Es gibt keine Hinweise, dass es sich dabei um Täter handelt, die hier in Köln eine Unterkunft als Flüchtlinge bezogen haben."

Golland regt das noch heute auf: "Seien wir doch mal ehrlich: Frau Kraftwäre tief betroffen auf der Domplatte erschienen und wahrscheinlich noch in Tränen ausgebrochen, wenn das ein rechter Mob gewesen wäre. Es waren einfach die falschen Täter."

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

A refugee here in germany fell down his balcony and died and people were laughing, cheering, they said things like: "So what? This is no loss for germany!" Just cruel comments, because he wasn't born here and because he wasn't white And then some orger here wanted to tell me that it's not about their skin color, it is, you wouldn't mind the refugees if they were white and people wouldn't write such disgusting things either! They don't care for them, they see them as "better apes". And the thing is, I feel like it's getting worse everyday! I'm so tired of seeing this nazi shit! I'm tired of germany, tired of the nazis, tired of their racist shit! The comment sections on FB were full of them you didn't even stand a chance when you tried to go against them. Sometimes I wish the berlin wall never fell, 'cause that's were these bastards were coming from! I'm ashamed to be german, I hope the family and friends of this poor soul didn't read these disgusting comments!

How can people be so heartless? But I guess these people were raised to believe that people with brown skin are worthless, the typical nazi shit. I'm so tired of it, 'cause I can't believe that people can be so cruel, although I see and hear it everyday.

Does anyone force you to stay in Germany?

It's his home. He was born there, he is German and has German citizenship. Where should he go?

TweetyV6 said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

TweetyV6 said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

TweetyV6 said:

Does anyone force you to stay in Germany?

It's his home. He was born there, he is German and has German citizenship. Where should he go?

Again, is anyone forcing him to stay in Germany? Whether he's German or not does not matter.
He makes it very apparent that he doesn't like it here (I am german and live in Germany & the Netherlands) and he's the only one who can change that. He's free to re-locate wherever he wants to.

Since he will not be able to change others, the only options he has is a) grow a pair and deal with it or b) go live somwhere else.

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I say that germany is still a nazi state.

[Snip - luv4u]

WTF !?!?!

If someone states that Germany still is a nazi state, he/she does have some serious mental problems.
Maybe he/she needs to have a talk with a holocaus survivor.

ThatWhiteDude said:

TweetyV6 said:

There was an official investigation about what happenend in Cologne and the aftermath by the Untersuchungsausschuss des Landtags.

Since you understand German:

Die Pressemitteilung der Kölner Polizei vom Neujahrsmorgen, in der von "ausgelassener Stimmung" die Rede ist, markiert den Anfang eines Debakels, das bis heute andauert. Sie ist mangelhafter Kommunikation geschuldet, Sprecherin Martina Kaiser weiß am Morgen schlicht nichts von den sexuellen Übergriffen. Im Laufe des 1. Januar trudeln Informationen ein, trotzdem berichtet die Pressestelle erst am 2. Januar darüber. Kaiser bittet später um Versetzung, entschuldigt sich bei den Opfern. Es hilft nichts: An den Behörden klebt seither der Vorwurf, sie hätten etwas verschweigen wollen.

So geht der Untersuchungsausschuss des Landtags etwa bis heute einem mysteriösen, von zwei Kölner Polizisten bezeugten Anruf nach, der aus der Landesleitstelle gekommen sei und in dem am 1. Januar darum gebeten worden sei, den Begriff "Vergewaltigung" aus einer Polizeimeldung zur Silvesternacht zu streichen.

Der 4. Januar, ein Montag, ist der Tag, an dem alles zu kippen beginnt. Übers Wochenende sind kaum Artikel über die Silvesternacht erschienen, und die wenigen, die es gibt, beschreiben nicht das gesamte Ausmaß, von 30 bis 50 Krawallmachern ist die Rede. Am 4. Januar wird der Polizei die Dimension allmählich klar; über 90 Anzeigen liegen mittlerweile vor.

Jetzt geht es Schlag auf Schlag. Der Kölner Polizeipräsident Wolfgang Albers berichtet von Straftaten "völlig neuer Dimension" und von Tätern, die nordafrikanisch aussähen. NRW-Innenminister Jäger erklärt, ebenfalls am 4. Januar, gegenüber Kölner Zeitungen: Man werde nicht hinnehmen, dass sich nordafrikanische Männergruppen organisieren, um wehrlose Frauen mit sexuellen Attacken zu erniedrigen. Vor dem Bahnhof gibt der CDU-Innenexperte Gregor Golland als erster Landtagsabgeordneter ein Fernsehinterview: "Ich wusste da schon aus internen Quellen bei der Polizei, dass die Täter Flüchtlinge waren, und habe das auch benannt", erinnert er sich stolz. Und zwar zu einem Zeitpunkt, als führende Politiker und der Polizeipräsident noch behauptet hätten, das dürfe man doch nicht so sagen, das wisse man noch gar nicht.

Tatsächlich erklärt am 5. Januar Polizeipräsident Albers: "Wir haben derzeit keine Erkenntnisse über die Täter." Er will korrekt sein, es gibt schließlich noch keine Festgenommenen. Und Oberbürgermeisterin Henriette Rekersagt: "Es gibt keine Hinweise, dass es sich dabei um Täter handelt, die hier in Köln eine Unterkunft als Flüchtlinge bezogen haben."

Golland regt das noch heute auf: "Seien wir doch mal ehrlich: Frau Kraftwäre tief betroffen auf der Domplatte erschienen und wahrscheinlich noch in Tränen ausgebrochen, wenn das ein rechter Mob gewesen wäre. Es waren einfach die falschen Täter."

That's an old article, do you know that some cops had to admitt that they racially profiled SOME people? So the numbers aren't fully right. Or that victims reported about german offenders but the authorities focused in the Refugees?

a) Yes it's 'old' (well, 2 years, but o.k.) that was not the point. It surely isn't RT. It's an official investigation. So no RT fake news as you claim.

b) And instead of 'Racial Profiling' try statistically profiling.
If the rape and sex. harrassment victims report the offenders being people with a north African appearance, then why should the police look for chinese or white or dark black offenders????

And if you would have read the whole article, you would have noticed that it were Moroccans.
And since Morocco is a very safe country, they were no legal refugees. They were young guys from Cassablanca whom deliberately cam te Germany (under the claim of being Syrian refugees) looking for German pussy (according to their own saying!!!)

ThatWhiteDude said:

TweetyV6 said:

I'll sponsor.
I'd pay for a train ticket to Amsterdam. One way. You will feel at home there. You'll be among same minded victim role adopters and racism card pulling whiners.

Says the guy who posted a Video of a racist nutcase whining on YouTube because they censored his racist Video. You don't know what the fuck is going on in Germany! I see it everyday! Just Yesterday a group of black people was thrown Out of a KFC in berlin because people said: "They were talking loud", a nazi let His Dog bite a refugee, I could Go on and on with stories Like that. So please shut up and crawl back under the rock you were coming from.

Dude I am German I live in Germany. For 48 years. That's more then twice your age.

You're just a millennial snowflake whiner who cannot handle the real world.
Grow a pair and deal with it!

TweetyV6 said:

TweetyV6 said:

^^ Oh and Tweety, I also find it strange why it's so important for some people WHO did harass these women, because, if we'd be honest, it doesn't matter. It only matters if you have an agenda, if you try to demonize a certain group of people. Because, it's so funny, this shit happens every year at the october fest and no one is outraged, no one gives a fuck and no one talks about it. But when the authorities said who did harass the women in 2015 everybody shouted "Rape Culture". See what I mean?

ThatWhiteDude said:

TweetyV6 said:

Dude I am German I live in Germany. For 48 years. That's more then twice your age.

You're just a millennial snowflake whiner who cannot handle the real world.
Grow a pair and deal with it!

Snowflake ist the favourite nazi word and they use it when someone tells them the truth about the racism that's going on 😂 and it's so funny you're always being so agressive, so Tell me, who's the emotion snowflake?

So now you are trying to label me as nazi by proxy?

Snowflakes are young people, like you apparently, being raised in an overprotective environment and then, when released to the real world and being confronted with real world problems, don't have a clue how to deal with them.

Then they start whining and having 'burnouts', feeling vitimized and mistreated.

In the Netherlands already 34,6% of students from 18-25 have 'burnout symptoms' because they have so much choices to make...

It has nothing to do with nazi (apparently you label everyone who doesn't fit in your environment a nazi) these are objective, measurable facts.
And the people wo are researching this phenomenon labeled people from your generation with those symptoms millenial snowflakes.

ThatWhiteDude said:

You didn't listen, some cops admitted that they racially profiled people BEFORE that shit even happened!!!!! They manipulated the numbers on purpose.

I couldn't listen, because no one said something. I only read some stuff.

And an 18 year old woman lied about it. She wasn't even there that night.

One out of 90 women... whoooo

You're getting on my nerves,

Classical millenial snowflake thingy

you made it very clear that you hate muslims by posting that video of that old Nazi b*tch.

That's not polite. You draw the wrong conclusion my friend. I hate Islam. As much as I hate any other religion. Religion is for dumb fucks.

And stop being so agressive, I don't care how long you live in germany, you're the classical racism deniar.

Oh? Is that right? I'm well aware of racism happening, but I'm also well aware that some people (here, have a mirror) exaggerate and polarise.

Just because you don't, want to see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Oh and to your post about Holocaust survives, I've seen some interviews regarding this new Nazi partie, they're just as scared as the people you call milenial whining snowflakes. So please, have a f*cking seat. This thread isn't even about that night but you and another poster try to derail this thread. [Edited 5/25/18 5:12am] [Edited 5/25/18 5:27am]

Hmm... I haven't seen Merkel call on the police to pick up (any group of) people, put them in concentration camps and kill them by the thousands... or did I mis that too? Oh and you derailed it yourself by asking the question whether it was on RT (see Reply #18) Would you not have asked that question, we would not have had this discussion.

Let me tell you one thing Dude, I was not being raised in an overprotective environment. I already knew as a kid how fucked up the world is and how fucked up people can be, trust me, I've seen so much shit growing up

And no, you got this wrong again, I only label nazis as nazis. Dude, you posted a video of a guy who was whining because YouTube censored his totally racist video and then you said you understand his views, that makes you a nazi.

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

TweetyV6 said: Snowflake ist the favourite nazi word and they use it when someone tells them the truth about the racism that's going on 😂 and it's so funny you're always being so agressive, so Tell me, who's the emotion snowflake?

So now you are trying to label me as nazi by proxy?

Snowflakes are young people, like you apparently, being raised in an overprotective environment and then, when released to the real world and being confronted with real world problems, don't have a clue how to deal with them.

Then they start whining and having 'burnouts', feeling vitimized and mistreated.

In the Netherlands already 34,6% of students from 18-25 have 'burnout symptoms' because they have so much choices to make...

It has nothing to do with nazi (apparently you label everyone who doesn't fit in your environment a nazi) these are objective, measurable facts.
And the people wo are researching this phenomenon labeled people from your generation with those symptoms millenial snowflakes.

TweetyV6 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

You didn't listen, some cops admitted that they racially profiled people BEFORE that shit even happened!!!!! They manipulated the numbers on purpose.

I couldn't listen, because no one said something. I only read some stuff.

Oh? Is that right? I'm well aware of racism happening, but I'm also well aware that some people (here, have a mirror) exaggerate and polarise.

Just because you don't, want to see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Oh and to your post about Holocaust survives, I've seen some interviews regarding this new Nazi partie, they're just as scared as the people you call milenial whining snowflakes. So please, have a f*cking seat. This thread isn't even about that night but you and another poster try to derail this thread. [Edited 5/25/18 5:12am] [Edited 5/25/18 5:27am]

Hmm... I haven't seen Merkel call on the police to pick up (any group of) people, put them in concentration camps and kill them by the thousands... or did I mis that too? Oh and you derailed it yourself by asking the question whether it was on RT (see Reply #18) Would you not have asked that question, we would not have had this discussion.

I'm not talking about Merkel, but she's also a fake democrate, because she made this fucked up deal with Erdogan in 2016 just to please the nazis.

I was talking about the new nazi partie. And I'm sorry it is kind of a nazi state if cops beat up people who protest against nazis, while they protect the nazis at the same fucking time! Or when cops burn a refugee in jail and get away with it, or a nazi group killing immigrants for ten years and get away with it because some people from the state knew about it but protected them!!