independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Tue 18th Sep 2018 1:03pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Politics & Religion > Losing faith in humanity
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 05/13/18 2:59pm

ThatWhiteDude

Losing faith in humanity

A refugee here in germany fell down his balcony and died and people were laughing, cheering, they said things like: "So what? This is no loss for germany!" Just cruel comments, because he wasn't born here and because he wasn't white And then some orger here wanted to tell me that it's not about their skin color, it is, you wouldn't mind the refugees if they were white and people wouldn't write such disgusting things either! They don't care for them, they see them as "better apes". And the thing is, I feel like it's getting worse everyday! I'm so tired of seeing this nazi shit! I'm tired of germany, tired of the nazis, tired of their racist shit! The comment sections on FB were full of them you didn't even stand a chance when you tried to go against them. Sometimes I wish the berlin wall never fell, 'cause that's were these bastards were coming from! I'm ashamed to be german, I hope the family and friends of this poor soul didn't read these disgusting comments!

How can people be so heartless? But I guess these people were raised to believe that people with brown skin are worthless, the typical nazi shit. I'm so tired of it, 'cause I can't believe that people can be so cruel, although I see and hear it everyday.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 05/13/18 7:28pm

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

avatar

I know exactly how you feel. It’s certainly challenging. The ignorance ratio is surprising considering we’re supposedly living in civilization.
Crooked Donnie. Lock him up!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 05/13/18 11:00pm

214

Horrible just horrible.

[Edited 5/13/18 23:01pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 05/13/18 11:08pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

Australia has some of the worst anti-refugee, immigration policies in the world.
From turning away sinking boats of people attempting to enter the country. which has resulted in the drowning of refugees.
There are also concentration camps which hold asylum seekers who refuse to return to countries they have fled from.
All of this is due to racist and xenophobic attitudes in society.
these violent, deadly and inhumane policies are created in an attempt to deter immigrants and asylum seekers from non European countries.


I say this because the current immigration minister in Australia who enforces these barbaric policies against African and middle eastern refugees, has come out recently to say that Australia needs to introduce a specific policy which will allow white South African farmers to bypass Australias immigration policies and be granted visas and brought directly to Australia if they decide they would like to live here.

Some people are just incapable of empathy unless the person in question happens to also look like them.
It's an extreme level of narcissism.



Racism: A Symptom of the Narcissistic Personality
Carl C. Bell


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....MC2552506/




.
[Edited 5/14/18 0:12am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 05/14/18 8:09am

2elijah

avatar

It’s the generational, ignorant and false ideology of white supremacy beliefs that has infected the globe. That is why people of color are treated like they are not human. It’s humanity’s greatest crime when one group of humans, falsely labels themselves as ‘better or superior’ than other humans, based on skin color, and then use that fallacy to abuse, hate/discriminate just to have power over the human rights of others.

It’s especially disgusting when you have leaders of countries promoting hatred/duscrimstion and lies about people of color, but doesn’t condemn the wrongs of those within his own racial group. That in and of itself is a crime against humanity, and exposes those types of leaders who promote racial division and hatred, and those who support them, are just as guilty.
[Edited 5/14/18 8:16am]
FEARLESS
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 05/14/18 8:47am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

Haus, quit acting like you don't live large.

Good news though, seems Germany has lowering crime rates. So much for the affront that refugees cause crime. amen

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 05/14/18 9:43am

NorthC

2freaky4church1 said:

Haus, quit acting like you don't live large.



Good news though, seems Germany has lowering crime rates. So much for the affront that refugees cause crime. amen


We had the same news in Holland recently. But is crime really going down is it just not reported as often as it used to?
To the White Dude, there are cruel, heartless and stupid people everywhere, please don't let them lose your faith in humanity. hug
I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 05/14/18 2:07pm

ThatWhiteDude

hausofmoi7 said:

Australia has some of the worst anti-refugee, immigration policies in the world. From turning away sinking boats of people attempting to enter the country. which has resulted in the drowning of refugees. There are also concentration camps which hold asylum seekers who refuse to return to countries they have fled from. All of this is due to racist and xenophobic attitudes in society. these violent, deadly and inhumane policies are created in an attempt to deter immigrants and asylum seekers from non European countries. I say this because the current immigration minister in Australia who enforces these barbaric policies against African and middle eastern refugees, has come out recently to say that Australia needs to introduce a specific policy which will allow white South African farmers to bypass Australias immigration policies and be granted visas and brought directly to Australia if they decide they would like to live here. Some people are just incapable of empathy unless the person in question happens to also look like them. It's an extreme level of narcissism. Racism: A Symptom of the Narcissistic Personality Carl C. Bell https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....MC2552506/ . [Edited 5/14/18 0:12am]

There's a partie here in germany called AfD and they want also concentration camps for refugees and political enemies as they'd call people like me.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 05/14/18 2:21pm

ThatWhiteDude

2elijah said:

It’s the generational, ignorant and false ideology of white supremacy beliefs that has infected the globe. That is why people of color are treated like they are not human. It’s humanity’s greatest crime when one group of humans, falsely labels themselves as ‘better or superior’ than other humans, based on skin color, and then use that fallacy to abuse, hate/discriminate just to have power over the human rights of others. It’s especially disgusting when you have leaders of countries promoting hatred/duscrimstion and lies about people of color, but doesn’t condemn the wrongs of those within his own racial group. That in and of itself is a crime against humanity, and exposes those types of leaders who promote racial division and hatred, and those who support them, are just as guilty. [Edited 5/14/18 8:16am]

You know what's crazy about this? They say you can and should report hate comments to FB and sometimes even to the police but nothing happens, at least not to the nazis. And the police here in germany seems corrupt as fuck, especially in east germany, there was a person I know from a FB group, she wanted to affix anti nazi stickers on buildings, and a group of nazis kicked her down and beat her up and stole the stickers. She went to the police and they said: "Well, you were commiting a crime and these guys stopped you." Yes, it's not allowed to affix stickers on buildings, but come on! They kicked her down, just because it was nazi stickers, and this is a crime too. If people claim this doesn't happen in germany, they're lying. We've been signing a petition because there was a refugee who died in prison, he burned and the police claimed he did it himself, but he didn't have a lighter to do it, there was a nazi group that murdered immigrants for ten years and no one did anything about it, although people from the intelligence service (Sorry I tried to translate the word "Verfassungsschutz, don't know if it's right!) knew about it.

If you're a nazi in germany, nothing will happen to you, even the cops protect your ass when protesting while their enemies get beat up by them. I say that germany is still a nazi state.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 05/14/18 2:31pm

ThatWhiteDude

NorthC said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Haus, quit acting like you don't live large.

Good news though, seems Germany has lowering crime rates. So much for the affront that refugees cause crime. amen

We had the same news in Holland recently. But is crime really going down is it just not reported as often as it used to? To the White Dude, there are cruel, heartless and stupid people everywhere, please don't let them lose your faith in humanity. hug

I try my best not too, but it's getting harder everyday, especially after reading and hearing this shit sad I wonder if we'll ever see a time where none white people recieve the same respect and treatment as white people. They are fighting for so long now and it looks like there'll never be an ending to it.

I know I don't commit the crimes the nazis do, but I can understand that the refugees don't trust us anymore, I can totally understand their hate towards us, I can totally understand when they say: "Fuck germany!" And then the nazis say: "They're so ungrateful!" No they're not! But they know that you don't want them, the nazis burn down refugee accommodations and shit like that.

And I'm here like: "No wonder they hate us white people, these nazis commit the most horrible crimes simply because they hate people with brown skin and that is the craziest shit I've ever seen."

But I promise myself that one day, I'll have the money to leave that nazi shithole behind.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 05/14/18 2:58pm

uPtoWnNY

I never had any faith in humanity. How can you, when you look at human history.

All this shit going on now just confirms what I've always known.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 05/14/18 7:47pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

2freaky4church1 said:

Haus, quit acting like you don't live large.



Good news though, seems Germany has lowering crime rates. So much for the affront that refugees cause crime. amen




You have issues.







.
[Edited 5/14/18 23:14pm]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 05/14/18 8:04pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

ThatWhiteDude said:



hausofmoi7 said:


Australia has some of the worst anti-refugee, immigration policies in the world. From turning away sinking boats of people attempting to enter the country. which has resulted in the drowning of refugees. There are also concentration camps which hold asylum seekers who refuse to return to countries they have fled from. All of this is due to racist and xenophobic attitudes in society. these violent, deadly and inhumane policies are created in an attempt to deter immigrants and asylum seekers from non European countries. I say this because the current immigration minister in Australia who enforces these barbaric policies against African and middle eastern refugees, has come out recently to say that Australia needs to introduce a specific policy which will allow white South African farmers to bypass Australias immigration policies and be granted visas and brought directly to Australia if they decide they would like to live here. Some people are just incapable of empathy unless the person in question happens to also look like them. It's an extreme level of narcissism. Racism: A Symptom of the Narcissistic Personality Carl C. Bell https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....MC2552506/ . [Edited 5/14/18 0:12am]

There's a partie here in germany called AfD and they want also concentration camps for refugees and political enemies as they'd call people like me.



Many people make modern Germany out to be a sophisticated liberal bastion.
I guess the reality as you pointed out is quite different for certain groups.

In your original post you mentioned Nazi's.
Is there a sub culture of Nazism in Germany?

or do you find more broadly that some of those same attitudes have just carried over into modern mainstream German society and politics?
Much like Australia and America which are still dealing with thier history of white supremacy that to this day affects thier society and political system?












.
[Edited 5/15/18 2:25am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 05/14/18 9:36pm

214

[Snip - luv4u]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 05/14/18 9:55pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

.
[Edited 5/15/18 2:23am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 05/14/18 11:21pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

Everyday racism: 'Berlin isn't as cosmopolitan as is often claimed'
https://www.google.com.au...laimed/amp



Whether it is people touching their hair without asking, or bouncers rejecting them from bars, black people in Germany are used to being treated differently based on the colour of their skin.
Saraya Gomis is the daughter of a German mother and a Senegalese father. At the baker, strangers ask her "where I come from". At a conference, participants persistently speak English with her even though she answers in accent-free German. In the subway, a stranger starts touching her long braids without asking permission.

"I just grabbed that person's hair too. Strangely enough, she's completely freaked out," she says.

The debate about everyday racism in Germany was revived earlier this month when the painter Noah Becker was racially insulted on social media. A commentary on the Twitter account of Alternative for Germany MP Jens Maier described Becker as a "little half negro". The tweet referred to an interview in which the son of tennis legend Boris Becker and Barbara Becker said that Berlin was a "white city" compared to Paris and London. He himself had been attacked because of his skin colour, he said.

"Noah Becker expressed what many black people in Germany unfortunately have to put up with every day. They are insulted, they are disadvantaged in their job search, they struggle to find a place to live," says Christine Lüders, head of the federal anti-discrimination office.

Many black Germans have the feeling that they are not treated like full citizens of the country, Lüders concludes. "We must counteract this impression, including by openly addressing discrimination and clearly putting racists in their place."
[Edited 5/14/18 23:22pm]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 05/14/18 11:25pm

hausofmoi7

avatar

Sharp increase in refugee suicides in Hesse, Germany
http://www.infomigrants.n...se-germany

The number of refugees attempting suicide in Germany's central state of Hesse is on the rise. The Left Party parliamentary group attributes the increase to dire conditions in asylum centers and an increased threat of deportation. Hesse's state government says there are exemplary psychosocial care programs in place.

Frankfurt airport is Germany's main transit hub. Many rejected asylum seekers, forced to leave the country, are returned on flights leaving from here. While waiting for their return flights, they are placed in accommodation in a special transit zone. This is where many suicide attempts and acts of self-harm take place.

A total of 70 asylum seekers attempted to kill or harm themselves in the state of Hesse last year, 18 of those in the airport transit zone. Four committed suicide, with one case taking place at the airport.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 05/15/18 6:50am

ThatWhiteDude

hausofmoi7 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

There's a partie here in germany called AfD and they want also concentration camps for refugees and political enemies as they'd call people like me.

Many people make modern Germany out to be a sophisticated liberal bastion. I guess the reality as you pointed out is quite different for certain groups. In your original post you mentioned Nazi's. Is there a sub culture of Nazism in Germany? or do you find more broadly that some of those same attitudes have just carried over into modern mainstream German society and politics? Much like Australia and America which are still dealing with thier history of white supremacy that to this day affects thier society and political system? . [Edited 5/15/18 2:25am]

I wouldn't call it a sub culture, to me it seems like that germany is still like a nazi state and that the fascists have been hiding behind the mask of democracy and liberalism. And now that we have this new nazi partie they show their true colors. These aren't just nazis, they don't only wish back the third reich, they believe we still live in it and a lot of them are what I'd call militant, they own a lot of guns, illegal of course from the dark net. They are attacking cops and a lot of them are cops, they don't accept the BRD as a free state and it's not a low number of people either. Is it still a sub culture when the nazis are figures who represent the state and the law inforcement? Or when liberals get kicked in the face by the cops when sitting on train tracks because they want to stop the cops from taking a student (who happened to be a refugee) out of school because some asshat decided he's not allowed to be here? While nazis are being escorted by the police without being touched by them, they are safe unless we, their enemies as they like to call the liberals, see them.

Of course people would say this is just my opinion and they have every right to do so, but I've witnessed a lot to doubt that this is a just a sub culture.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 05/15/18 6:52am

ThatWhiteDude

hausofmoi7 said:

Sharp increase in refugee suicides in Hesse, Germany http://www.infomigrants.n...se-germany The number of refugees attempting suicide in Germany's central state of Hesse is on the rise. The Left Party parliamentary group attributes the increase to dire conditions in asylum centers and an increased threat of deportation. Hesse's state government says there are exemplary psychosocial care programs in place. Frankfurt airport is Germany's main transit hub. Many rejected asylum seekers, forced to leave the country, are returned on flights leaving from here. While waiting for their return flights, they are placed in accommodation in a special transit zone. This is where many suicide attempts and acts of self-harm take place. A total of 70 asylum seekers attempted to kill or harm themselves in the state of Hesse last year, 18 of those in the airport transit zone. Four committed suicide, with one case taking place at the airport.

I'd kill myself too if I was a refugee. Germany is among the countries who feed syria with guns and then act innocent when it comes to refugees. "Hey we are part of the problem over there but we don't want your asses here." That's exactly how it is.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 05/15/18 6:53am

2freaky4church
1

avatar

We will outlive Trump.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 05/15/18 6:58am

ThatWhiteDude

hausofmoi7 said:

Everyday racism: 'Berlin isn't as cosmopolitan as is often claimed' https://www.google.com.au...laimed/amp Whether it is people touching their hair without asking, or bouncers rejecting them from bars, black people in Germany are used to being treated differently based on the colour of their skin. Saraya Gomis is the daughter of a German mother and a Senegalese father. At the baker, strangers ask her "where I come from". At a conference, participants persistently speak English with her even though she answers in accent-free German. In the subway, a stranger starts touching her long braids without asking permission. "I just grabbed that person's hair too. Strangely enough, she's completely freaked out," she says. The debate about everyday racism in Germany was revived earlier this month when the painter Noah Becker was racially insulted on social media. A commentary on the Twitter account of Alternative for Germany MP Jens Maier described Becker as a "little half negro". The tweet referred to an interview in which the son of tennis legend Boris Becker and Barbara Becker said that Berlin was a "white city" compared to Paris and London. He himself had been attacked because of his skin colour, he said. "Noah Becker expressed what many black people in Germany unfortunately have to put up with every day. They are insulted, they are disadvantaged in their job search, they struggle to find a place to live," says Christine Lüders, head of the federal anti-discrimination office. Many black Germans have the feeling that they are not treated like full citizens of the country, Lüders concludes. "We must counteract this impression, including by openly addressing discrimination and clearly putting racists in their place." [Edited 5/14/18 23:22pm]

I actually can tell you a story. The cousin of a friend of mine has a black father and a white mother, so that would make her half black, half white. Her skin isn't white and I remember one time we went to the mall. I am white and I've never been followed around while shopping, but that one time she went with us, there was this security guy and he followed our group until we went to pay for our stuff. Now, I know he wasn't following me, my sister and our white friend, they were following her cousin. 'Cause if we would've been alone, this guy wouldn't have followed us through the shop.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 05/15/18 7:02am

ThatWhiteDude

2freaky4church1 said:

We will outlive Trump.

Without a doubt we will, but I'm more worried about his impact, Hitler is dead for over 70 years now but his impact still lasts today, I can tell from my observation, that germany didn't really learn from the past. Because even if the nazi partie AfD didn't have the most votes, it's a shame, because if we would've learned from it, they wouldn't have any votes.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 05/15/18 7:08am

peedub

avatar

a couple of years ago, around the fire on the patio of my local tavern, i had an evening long conversation with a young lady from berlin...she related to me that racism/nazism/insert phobia here is strong and prevelant in them parts; and one of the main reasons she wanted to not go back. her visa was set to expire and she was then exploring ways that she might be able to stick around. i felt real bad for her. she seemed a nice girl...

on the flip side, didn't merkel just get some trophy from the pope or somebody about some kind of first place humanitarian? i guess that shit don't trickle down...

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 05/15/18 7:14am

hausofmoi7

avatar

ThatWhiteDude said:



hausofmoi7 said:


ThatWhiteDude said:


There's a partie here in germany called AfD and they want also concentration camps for refugees and political enemies as they'd call people like me.



Many people make modern Germany out to be a sophisticated liberal bastion. I guess the reality as you pointed out is quite different for certain groups. In your original post you mentioned Nazi's. Is there a sub culture of Nazism in Germany? or do you find more broadly that some of those same attitudes have just carried over into modern mainstream German society and politics? Much like Australia and America which are still dealing with thier history of white supremacy that to this day affects thier society and political system? . [Edited 5/15/18 2:25am]

I wouldn't call it a sub culture, to me it seems like that germany is still like a nazi state and that the fascists have been hiding behind the mask of democracy and liberalism. And now that we have this new nazi partie they show their true colors. These aren't just nazis, they don't only wish back the third reich, they believe we still live in it and a lot of them are what I'd call militant, they own a lot of guns, illegal of course from the dark net. They are attacking cops and a lot of them are cops, they don't accept the BRD as a free state and it's not a low number of people either. Is it still a sub culture when the nazis are figures who represent the state and the law inforcement? Or when liberals get kicked in the face by the cops when sitting on train tracks because they want to stop the cops from taking a student (who happened to be a refugee) out of school because some asshat decided he's not allowed to be here? While nazis are being escorted by the police without being touched by them, they are safe unless we, their enemies as they like to call the liberals, see them.



Of course people would say this is just my opinion and they have every right to do so, but I've witnessed a lot to doubt that this is a just a sub culture.


Thanks for the insight into your country on this issue.
That was really informative.

By the way, you seem like a very nice person. For what it's worth.





.
[Edited 5/15/18 7:27am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 05/15/18 8:33am

2elijah

avatar

ThatWhiteDude said:



NorthC said:


2freaky4church1 said:

Haus, quit acting like you don't live large.



Good news though, seems Germany has lowering crime rates. So much for the affront that refugees cause crime. amen



We had the same news in Holland recently. But is crime really going down is it just not reported as often as it used to? To the White Dude, there are cruel, heartless and stupid people everywhere, please don't let them lose your faith in humanity. hug

I try my best not too, but it's getting harder everyday, especially after reading and hearing this shit sad I wonder if we'll ever see a time where none white people recieve the same respect and treatment as white people. They are fighting for so long now and it looks like there'll never be an ending to it.



I know I don't commit the crimes the nazis do, but I can understand that the refugees don't trust us anymore, I can totally understand their hate towards us, I can totally understand when they say: "Fuck germany!" And then the nazis say: "They're so ungrateful!" No they're not! But they know that you don't want them, the nazis burn down refugee accommodations and shit like that.



And I'm here like: "No wonder they hate us white people, these nazis commit the most horrible crimes simply because they hate people with brown skin and that is the craziest shit I've ever seen."



But I promise myself that one day, I'll have the money to leave that nazi shithole behind.


I get why you’re upset. That’s a really sad situation you described. Unfortunately, we have to deal with many people, in this world, who are just not nice. All you can do is not allow anyone to steal your human spirit.
FEARLESS
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 05/15/18 9:12am

NorthC

The thing is, a lot of asylum seekers aren't refugees at all. A lot of them come from countries like Algeria and Morocco who have no chance of getting refugee status and know it, but they try anyway. And they can't be sent back, because the countries of origin aren't helping. And some of them do cause trouble. Remember New Year's Eve in Cologne? So I don't think it's just a problem of white racism. Unfortunately, some people cannot or will not make the difference between these immigrants who just want to try their luck and real refugees. People who flee from a war zone should always have a right to stay here, but that doesn't mean everybody who comes to Europe can stay. This is one of the big problems of today and we cannot blame it all on racism. It's more complicated than that.
I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend your right to say it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 05/15/18 9:50am

Empress

214 said:

German people have alwats been shitty people I don't understand how come did they survive WW2.

This is a very racist statement. It's the same as saying all Mexicans are rapists and thugs. Not all Germans are shitty people as you put it. There are good and bad in every single race and in every country in this world.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 05/15/18 9:52am

Empress

NorthC said:

The thing is, a lot of asylum seekers aren't refugees at all. A lot of them come from countries like Algeria and Morocco who have no chance of getting refugee status and know it, but they try anyway. And they can't be sent back, because the countries of origin aren't helping. And some of them do cause trouble. Remember New Year's Eve in Cologne? So I don't think it's just a problem of white racism. Unfortunately, some people cannot or will not make the difference between these immigrants who just want to try their luck and real refugees. People who flee from a war zone should always have a right to stay here, but that doesn't mean everybody who comes to Europe can stay. This is one of the big problems of today and we cannot blame it all on racism. It's more complicated than that.

Right on NorthC. You hit the nail on the head.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 05/15/18 9:10pm

214

Empress said:

214 said:

German people have alwats been shitty people I don't understand how come did they survive WW2.

This is a very racist statement. It's the same as saying all Mexicans are rapists and thugs. Not all Germans are shitty people as you put it. There are good and bad in every single race and in every country in this world.

Of course not all of them, not even most of them. but indeed lots of them. Specially back in the 30's when they supported such an eveil man like Hitler and of his evil buddies.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 05/15/18 9:11pm

214

NorthC said:

The thing is, a lot of asylum seekers aren't refugees at all. A lot of them come from countries like Algeria and Morocco who have no chance of getting refugee status and know it, but they try anyway. And they can't be sent back, because the countries of origin aren't helping. And some of them do cause trouble. Remember New Year's Eve in Cologne? So I don't think it's just a problem of white racism. Unfortunately, some people cannot or will not make the difference between these immigrants who just want to try their luck and real refugees. People who flee from a war zone should always have a right to stay here, but that doesn't mean everybody who comes to Europe can stay. This is one of the big problems of today and we cannot blame it all on racism. It's more complicated than that.

Indeed, even when racism may play such vital role, it's not just that. it's more complicated than that.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 3 123>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Politics & Religion > Losing faith in humanity