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White woman calls cops on...sleeping Black female grad student !

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At Yale, no less...for being asleep in a common area of the dorm. What is with these people, calling the cops the minute they see someone darker than Keanu Reeves...?? First Starbucks, then a guy in NYC moving into HIS OWN apartment, then Bob Marley's granddaughter at an Airbnb, and now an IVY LEAGUE school....

Lolade Siyonbola, a black graduate student at Yale University, had been writing a paper in her dorm’s common room when she dozed off. She awoke to a white schoolmate threatening to call the police if she didn’t leave.

Siyonbola, a 34-year-old African studies student, broadcast part of what happened next in two Facebook Live videos around 2 a.m. Tuesday. The first video shows her confronting the white student who ordered her to get out.

“I have every right to call the police,” the student, identified by Siyonbola as philosophy P.hD candidate Sarah Braasch, is heard saying in the video. “You cannot sleep in that room.”

Minutes later, two police officers arrive to begin what would turn into a 17-minute interrogation of Siyonbola, which she captured in her second video.

“I was sleeping in the common room and [Braasch] comes in and turns the lights on and was like, ‘Why are you sleeping here? You’re not supposed to be sleeping here. I’m going to call the police,’” Siyonbola told the officers.

Siyonbola told police the woman had called the cops on a friend a few months earlier, “because he was in the stairwell and he was black.”

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/18 5:14pm

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Saw that. Yale for pity's sake. The caller said she had every right to call, really? Cops made Syionbola show her ID after she took them to her ROOM. shake

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Reply #2 posted 05/10/18 6:21pm

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N***** Wake-Up Call......

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uPtoWnNY said:

N***** Wake-Up Call.....



LITERALLY!!!
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/18 5:46am

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The same white student called the police (911) on a black male as well. Isn't there campus security to mitigate something like this (nut)? What about the student who called? Will she continue getting away with doing that for no good reason?


NPR had a segment with the black women golfers (one was too upset to come) that were told to move on by white male players behind them. They were playing an acceptable speed according to the guidelines of the course. They had video with sound - it was brutal. They said they thought it was the combination of being black and female.

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Reply #5 posted 05/11/18 6:04am

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She seems to have issues. She said she has the right to call the police. Okay, maybe so but we have the right to call her to task. But what was even worst is how the cops treated the woman. She had a KEY and an ID. YET! they hassled her.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/18 7:24am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

She seems to have issues. She said she has the right to call the police. Okay, maybe so but we have the right to call her to task. But what was even worst is how the cops treated the woman. She had a KEY and an ID. YET! they hassled her.


A common thing in America.. still criminalizing Blacks. Had she not already had the racist mindset of viewing both the Black female and male as ‘suspicious’ and possible criminals, then she would not have threatened to call the police. This is why I’ve said the racist’ mental slavery mentality’ still lives on in America. The same view Zimmerman had of Trayvon. That type of mentality stems from white supremacy ideology, and how that ideology has infected the racist, ignorant stereotyped views of many in America.
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Reply #7 posted 05/11/18 7:45am

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

She seems to have issues. She said she has the right to call the police. Okay, maybe so but we have the right to call her to task. But what was even worst is how the cops treated the woman. She had a KEY and an ID. YET! they hassled her.

A common thing in America.. still criminalizing Blacks. Had she not already had the racist mindset of viewing both the Black female and male as ‘suspicious’ and possible criminals, then she would not have threatened to call the police. This is why I’ve said the racist’ mental slavery mentality’ still lives on in America. The same view Zimmerman had of Trayvon. That type of mentality stems from white supremacy ideology, and how that ideology has infected the racist, ignorant stereotyped views of many in America.

I have seen studies that even among other blacks, black people (especially males) are seen as more suspicious. The white teen running down the road in the rain is 'dedicated to exercise" and you know the other assumption.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/18 8:30am

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2elijah said:


A common thing in America.. still criminalizing Blacks. Had she not already had the racist mindset of viewing both the Black female and male as ‘suspicious’ and possible criminals, then she would not have threatened to call the police. This is why I’ve said the racist’ mental slavery mentality’ still lives on in America. The same view Zimmerman had of Trayvon. That type of mentality stems from white supremacy ideology, and how that ideology has infected the racist, ignorant stereotyped views of many in America. [Edited 5/11/18 8:03am]

In most of these colleges, it's impossible to get in most buildings, especially dorms, without swiping an ID or showing it to a guard. So it should have been obvious that the Black woman was a STUDENT there. These dorms also have students in charge of dorm issues, who are supposed to be contacted regarding any issues. Yet the White woman still called the cops...on a grad student.


I've detailed on other threads my own personal incidents of being profiled and followed, especially in stores, and the precautions that I take before I even go into stores. And I'm a middle aged man with glasses, usually dressed in business casual. Of course, I was told that I probably just "imagined" this profiling, or my "perception may have been off"...Yet you see incidents like this, or the people detained for leaving an Airbnb, or the guy moving INTO his own apartment, or the females golfers being hassled, or guys sitting for TWO MINUTES in a Starbucks before ordering something, or the two Native American boys who were on a college tour ...at least now with video , there is irrefutable proof that the things we've been talking about for years really does happen ....

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Reply #9 posted 05/11/18 8:41am

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

Yale officers admonished the white student who called police on a napping black student

(CNN)The Yale University police officers who were called to investigate a napping black graduate student ultimately admonished the white student who had contacted police in the first place, a Yale vice president says.

The incident, captured in two Facebook Live videos, has sparked outrage about racial profiling and policing.

Kimberly Goff-Crews, Yale's vice president for student life, said in an email to students Wednesday night that she's been "deeply troubled" by the incident...


Well at least they said something to the caller. The spelling error was probably minor but the cops continued to give Siyonbola the third degree on the video. Someone else should have been called in this instance instead of using 911. Failure of the institution to allow this to happen twice - with the same caller too.

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Reply #10 posted 05/11/18 8:49am

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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:


A common thing in America.. still criminalizing Blacks. Had she not already had the racist mindset of viewing both the Black female and male as ‘suspicious’ and possible criminals, then she would not have threatened to call the police. This is why I’ve said the racist’ mental slavery mentality’ still lives on in America. The same view Zimmerman had of Trayvon. That type of mentality stems from white supremacy ideology, and how that ideology has infected the racist, ignorant stereotyped views of many in America. [Edited 5/11/18 8:03am]

In most of these colleges, it's impossible to get in most buildings, especially dorms, without swiping an ID or showing it to a guard. So it should have been obvious that the Black woman was a STUDENT there. These dorms also have students in charge of dorm issues, who are supposed to be contacted regarding any issues. Yet the White woman still called the cops...on a grad student.


I've detailed on other threads my own personal incidents of being profiled and followed, especially in stores, and the precautions that I take before I even go into stores. And I'm a middle aged man with glasses, usually dressed in business casual. Of course, I was told that I probably just "imagined" this profiling, or my "perception may have been off"...Yet you see incidents like this, or the people detained for leaving an Airbnb, or the guy moving INTO his own apartment, or the females golfers being hassled, or guys sitting for TWO MINUTES in a Starbucks before ordering something, or the two Native American boys who were on a college tour ...at least now with video , there is irrefutable proof that the things we've been talking about for years really does happen ....

Including Bob Marley's grandaughter. She looks like him. The owner of the Airbnb house sided with the neighbor. Apparently if you don't wave, it's a burglary. disbelief


The Grio 5/8

A Wave to a 911 Call

Rodriguez’ neighbor saw her four Airbnb guests (three of whom were Black) exiting Rodriguez’ home and putting luggage into a vehicle in the driveway. The neighbor claims she did not recognize the people and so smiled and waved at them, but got no response. She apparently found that suspicious and called 911 saying that there was a burglary in progress.

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Reply #11 posted 05/11/18 8:59am

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Excellent article. BTW- Read some of the comments as well. Ignorant racism still exists in this country, as you see assholes blaming the Black student ! :

https://www.rollingstone....ng-w520140



Apologies have their limited worth. The University of Florida graduates who were manhandled by a "platform marshal" last Saturday as they celebrated commencement with a short dance onstage deserved an apology from the university president, and they got one. But apologies are not time machines. Those students won't get that moment back. The young men in that Nordstrom Rack are left with the residue of an experience that was humiliating if not outright frightening. Arreola, heading to a club that night, shouldn't have to wonder whether his wife will become a widow because he stopped to buy her some mints. "Sorry" doesn't wash any of those experiences away.

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Reply #12 posted 05/11/18 10:09am

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poppys said:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

Yale officers admonished the white student who called police on a napping black student



(CNN)The Yale University police officers who were called to investigate a napping black graduate student ultimately admonished the white student who had contacted police in the first place, a Yale vice president says.



The incident, captured in two Facebook Live videos, has sparked outrage about racial profiling and policing.


Kimberly Goff-Crews, Yale's vice president for student life, said in an email to students Wednesday night that she's been "deeply troubled" by the incident...


Well at least they said something to the caller. The spelling error was probably minor but the cops continued to give Siyonbola the third degree on the video. Someone else should have been called in this instance instead of using 911. Failure of the institution to allow this to happen twice - with the same caller too.



Also, it is not uncommon for Africans (and Asians as well) to have different names, their "native " name and an " American " one that they use for interactions with people here
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/18 10:22am

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I have a German derived last name that gets mispronounced and mispelled routinely, even though it is the second most common Mennonite surname (we got here in 1749-50). It's not very difficult either. "Americans" can't, won't and don't care to spell from my experience. That is just NO excuse for any of this, period.

Between the incidents cited in this thread and reading about Schneiderman, I am LIVID right about now.

[Edited 5/11/18 10:34am]

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Reply #14 posted 05/11/18 10:35am

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poppys said:

I have a German derived last name that gets mispronounced and mispelled routinely, even though it is the second most common Mennonite surname. It's not very difficult either. "Americans" can't and don't care to spell from my experience. That is just NO excuse for any of this, period.

Between the incidents cited in this thread and reading about Schneiderman, I am LIVID right about now.



As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/18 10:53am

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jjhunsecker said:

poppys said:

I have a German derived last name that gets mispronounced and mispelled routinely, even though it is the second most common Mennonite surname (we got here in 1749-50). It's not very difficult either. "Americans" can't, won't and don't care to spell from my experience. That is just NO excuse for any of this, period.

Between the incidents cited in this thread and reading about Schneiderman, I am LIVID right about now.


As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "


Monster bomb piece of work, strictly Non-Fiction! TGFA(for artists)

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Reply #16 posted 05/11/18 11:11am

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jjhunsecker said:

poppys said:


https://www.cnn.com/2018/...index.html

Yale officers admonished the white student who called police on a napping black student



(CNN)The Yale University police officers who were called to investigate a napping black graduate student ultimately admonished the white student who had contacted police in the first place, a Yale vice president says.



The incident, captured in two Facebook Live videos, has sparked outrage about racial profiling and policing.


Kimberly Goff-Crews, Yale's vice president for student life, said in an email to students Wednesday night that she's been "deeply troubled" by the incident...


Well at least they said something to the caller. The spelling error was probably minor but the cops continued to give Siyonbola the third degree on the video. Someone else should have been called in this instance instead of using 911. Failure of the institution to allow this to happen twice - with the same caller too.



Also, it is not uncommon for Africans (and Asians as well) to have different names, their "native " name and an " American " one that they use for interactions with people here

Yes, in Kenya, people have a European and an African first name.
"If you have men who will only come if they know there is a good road, I don't want them. I want men who will come if there is no road at all."
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/18 11:18am

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jjhunsecker said:

poppys said:

I have a German derived last name that gets mispronounced and mispelled routinely, even though it is the second most common Mennonite surname. It's not very difficult either. "Americans" can't and don't care to spell from my experience. That is just NO excuse for any of this, period.

Between the incidents cited in this thread and reading about Schneiderman, I am LIVID right about now.



As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "

Yep. Kind of feel like this is the pre-1960s. I think some folks like that. More of these things happening since trump got elected. What’s wrong with some of these modern-day Americans acting like they’ve never seen Blacks before? What’s with all the recent f’king harassment? When will they stop their racist, ignorant-ass bs? They just won’t leave us the f**k alone. It’s like they think it’s back in the slave days harassing and monitoring Black Americans. The harassers are the ones with the ‘slavery mentality.’
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/18 11:35am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:
As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "

Yep. Kind of feel like this is the pre-1960s. I think some folks like that.
What’s wrong with some of these modern-day Americans acting like they’ve never seen Blacks before? What’s with all the recent f’king harassment? When will they stop their racist, ignorant-ass-bs?


Agree. Starbucks debacle likely would not happen here because of the demographics, 60% African American, can you alienate more than half of your customers?. Plenty other stuff, but not that. Of course, people don't like Starbucks much here - or any chain for that matter. We have excellent coffee at Cafe du Monde in the French Market - open 24 hrs - takes all comers.

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "

Yep. Kind of feel like this is the pre-1960s. I think some folks like that. More of these things happening since trump got elected. What’s wrong with some of these modern-day Americans acting like they’ve never seen Blacks before? What’s with all the recent f’king harassment? When will they stop their racist, ignorant-ass bs? They just won’t leave us the f**k alone. It’s like they think it’s back in the slave days harassing and monitoring Black Americans. The harassers are the ones with the ‘slavery mentality.’
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We know that racism and xenophobia and discrimination have always been here, but I feel since Trump has been elected that it's been ramped up, that people feel free to say and do almost anything and it's OK to demonize and humiliate others
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jjhunsecker said:

2elijah said:


Yep. Kind of feel like this is the pre-1960s. I think some folks like that. More of these things happening since trump got elected. What’s wrong with some of these modern-day Americans acting like they’ve never seen Blacks before? What’s with all the recent f’king harassment? When will they stop their racist, ignorant-ass bs? They just won’t leave us the f**k alone. It’s like they think it’s back in the slave days harassing and monitoring Black Americans. The harassers are the ones with the ‘slavery mentality.’
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We know that racism and xenophobia and discrimination have always been here, but I feel since Trump has been elected that it's been ramped up, that people feel free to say and do almost anything and it's OK to demonize and humiliate others

Exactly.
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/18 6:39pm

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poppys said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
As Donald Glover sings in his new song: "THIS IS AMERICA "


Yep. Kind of feel like this is the pre-1960s. I think some folks like that.
What’s wrong with some of these modern-day Americans acting like they’ve never seen Blacks before? What’s with all the recent f’king harassment? When will they stop their racist, ignorant-ass-bs?



Agree. Starbucks debacle likely would not happen here because of the demographics, 60% African American, can you alienate more than half of your customers?. Plenty other stuff, but not that. Of course, people don't like Starbucks much here - or any chain for that matter. We have excellent coffee at Cafe du Monde in the French Market - open 24 hrs - takes all comers.


It’s just pathetic, idiotic and ignorant how some folks choose to treat others.
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No comment.

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Reply #23 posted 05/12/18 9:33am

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What gets me are black folks I see on social media who are actually shocked and saddened over this shit. Talk about going through life with your head up your ass.

I learned at an early age the ugly truth - doesn't matter how money/ status a black person has, we're just n*****s to a lot of people (and not just white folks either). My pop taught me that nearly 50 years ago, and he was right.

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uPtoWnNY said:

What gets me are black folks I see on social media who are actually shocked and saddened over this shit. Talk about going through life with your head up your ass.

I learned at an early age the ugly truth - doesn't matter how money/ status a black person has, we're just n*****s to a lot of people (and not just white folks either). My pop taught me that nearly 50 years ago, and he was right.

I think what saddens people is that you realize that there's nowhere safe, not your own apartment building, not an Airbnb, not on a golf course, not in Starbucks, and not even in the dorm at one of the finest colleges in America, if not the world, which is SUPPOSED to contain some of the smartest and most enlightened people...

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

What gets me are black folks I see on social media who are actually shocked and saddened over this shit. Talk about going through life with your head up your ass.

I learned at an early age the ugly truth - doesn't matter how money/ status a black person has, we're just n*****s to a lot of people (and not just white folks either). My pop taught me that nearly 50 years ago, and he was right.

I think what saddens people is that you realize that there's nowhere safe, not your own apartment building, not an Airbnb, not on a golf course, not in Starbucks, and not even in the dorm at one of the finest colleges in America, if not the world, which is SUPPOSED to contain some of the smartest and most enlightened people...

I don't get sad.....just shrug my shoulders and say, same as it ever was.

Aside from family, friends & acquaintances, I deal with no one.

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Reply #26 posted 05/13/18 2:09am

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Can't Ms Siyonbola file a complaint? Either against the police of against that other woman?
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NorthC said:

Can't Ms Siyonbola file a complaint? Either against the police of against that other woman?


She SHOULD, but I wonder how that would play out
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jjhunsecker said:



uPtoWnNY said:


What gets me are black folks I see on social media who are actually shocked and saddened over this shit. Talk about going through life with your head up your ass.



I learned at an early age the ugly truth - doesn't matter how money/ status a black person has, we're just n*****s to a lot of people (and not just white folks either). My pop taught me that nearly 50 years ago, and he was right.



I think what saddens people is that you realize that there's nowhere safe, not your own apartment building, not an Airbnb, not on a golf course, not in Starbucks, and not even in the dorm at one of the finest colleges in America, if not the world, which is SUPPOSED to contain some of the smartest and most enlightened people...


Ugly, hard and uncomfortable truths. All these latest incidents proves that many in America still have a racist mindset. It’s like a disease with no cure. Many of these folks with that kind of attitude, are raised with that racial ignorance, and hatred towards Blacks and other persons of color. Their parents raise them with a false sense of racial superiority and entitlement, that they think they deserve.

Also, like Uptown’s mention about non-Black people of color/non-Whites
(i.e. Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Arabs, etc), well I’ve seen many of them treat Blacks with the same attitude/prejudices. Many of them are brainwashed, by some of society’s stereotyped views they receive through various, media sources. Not to mention how many non-Black people of color(non-White) desire to be accepted by white society, as their equal, so they adopt the same racist attitudes towards Blacks as many white racists.
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Reply #29 posted 05/13/18 10:32am

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There are 3 different videos this week alone. The sad thing is the bogus media will focus on the Paris stabbings.

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