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Thread started 05/08/18 11:13am

poppys

Trump to withdraw from Iran Nuclear Deal



Speaking now.

edit - Reinstating highest level of sanctions. Wants them to agree to a new deal.



http://www.time.com/52697...al-macron/

President Trump Reinstates Sanctions on Iran: Watch Live

[Edited 5/8/18 11:31am]

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Reply #1 posted 05/08/18 11:34am

OnlyNDaUsa

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good the old deal was garbage... i say the deal is compy or else... they should get NOTHING in exchange.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #2 posted 05/08/18 12:00pm

Musicslave

I doubt anyone was surprised by this move. We'll see if the other countries will stand pat with their portions of the deal or not. Most Americans don't even realize that there were other countries involved. The so-called P5+1. China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States; plus Germany.

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Reply #3 posted 05/08/18 12:05pm

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Musicslave said:

I doubt anyone was surprised by this move. We'll see if the other countries will stand pat with their portions of the deal or not. Most Americans don't even realize that there were other countries involved. The so-called P5+1. China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States; plus Germany.

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Yes, Macron was at his most charming when he visited, so much for bromance...

orange thinks they will return to the table. Doesn't seem to care that by pulling out, we have NO way to clock them unless they come back, ball's in their court now.

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Reply #4 posted 05/08/18 1:20pm

13cjk13

OnlyNDaUsa said:

good the old deal was garbage... i say the deal is compy or else... they should get NOTHING in exchange.

The deal was working. Fuck Trump, he is garbage.

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Reply #5 posted 05/08/18 1:47pm

namepeace

It's what he told the American People what he was going to do, enough of the American People in enough of the critical states heard him and voted him into the White House, and 18 months later, here we are.

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #6 posted 05/08/18 3:16pm

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13cjk13 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

good the old deal was garbage... i say the deal is compy or else... they should get NOTHING in exchange.

The deal was working. Fuck Trump, he is garbage.


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #7 posted 05/08/18 5:27pm

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The fact that Iran even entered into negotiations to stop
developing neuclear capabilities at the behest of countries that not only themselves have neuclear weapons but have also actually used them.
And to also take into consideration the hostility directed at Iran from these exact same nations makes it a huge deal on Irans part to even enter the negotiations in the first place


Israel alone has 200 nukes pointed at Iran according to Colin Powell.
Saudi Arabia also may have neuclear weapons which it allegedly acquired from Pakistan.
Trump has said that Saudi Arabia has a right to obtain neuclear weapons if they want to.

Regardless of all this Iran still negotiated a deal.





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[Edited 5/9/18 3:58am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #8 posted 05/08/18 9:10pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

The fact that Iran would even enter negotiations to stop
developing neuclear power with countries who not only themselves have neuclear weapons but have also actually used them was a big deal on Irans part.

Israel alone has 200 nukes pointed at Iran according to Colin Powell.
Saudi Arabia also may have neuclear weapons which it allegedly acquired from Pakistan.
Trump has said that Saudi Arabia has a right to obtain neuclear weapons if they want to.

Regardless of all this Iran still negotiated a deal.




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Trump is an idiot. Perhaps he really does believe he single-handedly got NK to the table. Perhaps he wants the attention diverted from his imminent impeachment, But having said all that, I highly doubt Israel has 200 nukes pointed at anyone. That’s just bat shit bananas. As much as I respect Powell if he really said that, that’s just a big bowl of shit. I mean seriously? How many nukes does anyone need pointed at Iran lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/18 11:37pm

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he's a rotten piece of shit and an immediate danger to the world.

[Rule #4 - We cooperate fully with law enforcement agencies bearing appropriate paperwork snip no no no! - luv4u]

2013 Obama & Castro - "and barack has once again bowed down to a despot"
2018 Trump & Kim - "and it is happening now! after nearly 65 years and 11 presidents"
biggest fucking hypocrite around LOL only in da forum...
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Reply #10 posted 05/09/18 4:04am

OnlyNDaUsa

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DiminutiveRocker said:

13cjk13 said:

The deal was working. Fuck Trump, he is garbage.


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief

the dead did nothing to prevent Iran from making them. It made it harder to inspect the sites and actually paved a path for them to be allowed to make them.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #11 posted 05/09/18 4:12am

hausofmoi7

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

hausofmoi7 said:

The fact that Iran would even enter negotiations to stop
developing neuclear power with countries who not only themselves have neuclear weapons but have also actually used them was a big deal on Irans part.

Israel alone has 200 nukes pointed at Iran according to Colin Powell.
Saudi Arabia also may have neuclear weapons which it allegedly acquired from Pakistan.
Trump has said that Saudi Arabia has a right to obtain neuclear weapons if they want to.

Regardless of all this Iran still negotiated a deal.






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Trump is an idiot. Perhaps he really does believe he single-handedly got NK to the table. Perhaps he wants the attention diverted from his imminent impeachment, But having said all that, I highly doubt Israel has 200 nukes pointed at anyone. That’s just bat shit bananas. As much as I respect Powell if he really said that, that’s just a big bowl of shit. I mean seriously? How many nukes does anyone need pointed at Iran lol


According to leaked emails, Colin Powell disclosed that Israel has at least 200 nuclear weapons directed a Tehran.
The point is that people in western politics claim Israel is a nuclear free nation, when in fact they are not according to Colin Powell.
This hostility and aggression towards Iran is the reason why people in the west fear that Iran would actually seek a nuclear weapon to begin with.


You do know this is some actual verified tea? coffee



Colin Powell leaked emails: Israel has '200 nukes all pointed at Iran', former US secretary of state
https://www.google.com.au...html%3famp



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[Edited 5/9/18 4:36am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #12 posted 05/09/18 4:35am

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Israel has been fighting off attacks from others in the region for decades. They operate on a DEFENSIVE posture. Anyone that doesn't want to be counter attacked by Israel should stop attacking them.


Here is a question and the 2 answers:

"How could the other side stop any further aggression?"

Israel: Stop attacking us.

Palestine: Stop being alive.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #13 posted 05/09/18 4:47am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Israel has been fighting off attacks from others in the region for decades. They operate on a DEFENSIVE posture. Anyone that doesn't want to be counter attacked by Israel should stop attacking them.


Here is a question and the 2 answers:

"How could the other side stop any further aggression?"

Israel: Stop attacking us.

Palestine: Stop being alive.



A rapist who is attacking thier victim can not claim to be "in defensive mode".

You have no integrity.

Creepy perspective you have on things.
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #14 posted 05/09/18 4:50am

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By the way this discussion is about Iran.
Not colonization of Palestine.

Africa is not a country and neither is the Middle East.


Try and expand your understanding about the region.




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"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #15 posted 05/09/18 5:27am

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There is also a chance other nations involved in this Iran deal may decide to side with China and Russia to salvage thier relations.
Not to mention there is also huge trading possibilities directly with Iran for these nations.

Guns and Taylor Swift records might not be enough to sway the other nations to abandon this agreement.

Ironically Capitalist theory may be what salvages this deal from U.S sabotage.




Cannibal capitalism?




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[Edited 5/9/18 5:49am]
"It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non-violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection" – Lesley Hazleton on the first muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #16 posted 05/09/18 5:56am

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hausofmoi7 said:

There is also a chance other nations involved in this Iran deal may decide to side with China and Russia to salvage thier relations. Not to mention there is also huge trading possibilities directly with Iran for these nations. Guns and Taylor Swift records might not be enough to sway the other nations to abandon this agreement. Ironically Capitalist principles may be what salvages this deal from U.S sabotage. . . [Edited 5/9/18 5:32am]

Greaaat!

CBS news This Morning - The financial fallout from this alone is astounding. They ran down the companies and entire countries that will lose $$ from the sanctions. John Bolton, our new National Security Advisor (excuse me - I have to throw up), was on camera with a steady drumbeat against Iran. The worst case scenario is they are destablizing Iran to attempt regime change. This is a theme of Boltons for decades.

Hey haus, why did you edit out none of this makes any sense on your reply upthread? That was my favorite part lol .

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Reply #17 posted 05/09/18 6:06am

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Ha and I did hear something funny and TRUE on the radio: most people mad over this have no idea why they are mad... other than it is another hole in the garbage obama legacy.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #18 posted 05/09/18 6:15am

poppys

^^ troll

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Reply #19 posted 05/09/18 6:19am

OnlyNDaUsa

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poppys said:

^^ troll

funny how you call me a troll just because I do not agree with you and some of the others. I do not believe this was a good deal. It offered nothing to the US or the others involved it only helped Iran. They gave up nothing and were immensely enriched.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #20 posted 05/09/18 6:20am

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Ha and I did hear something funny and TRUE somewhere: most people happy over this have no idea why they are happy... other than it is another hole in the obama legacy

true dat.

f.e. see mind controlled fox bot orgers above



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2013 Obama & Castro - "and barack has once again bowed down to a despot"
2018 Trump & Kim - "and it is happening now! after nearly 65 years and 11 presidents"
biggest fucking hypocrite around LOL only in da forum...
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Reply #21 posted 05/09/18 6:23am

13cjk13

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ha and I did hear something funny and TRUE on the radio: most people mad over this have no idea why they are mad... other than it is another hole in the garbage obama legacy.

Trump is garbage. Oh, and if you think for one single second that that piece of shit in the white house knows absolutely ANYTHING about what the Iran Nuclear deal is, you are sadly mistaken. All he knows is that Obama was involved. Like I said, he is garbage, and is ridiculously stupid as well.

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Reply #22 posted 05/09/18 6:24am

13cjk13

OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief

the dead did nothing to prevent Iran from making them. It made it harder to inspect the sites and actually paved a path for them to be allowed to make them.

Sure, on Fox "news" it did just that.

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Reply #23 posted 05/09/18 6:41am

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i have never been more worried about things in the US ...

we are becoming such a backward country and ... not participating with international

pacts etc is just a bad way to go . . .

Colonel Angus may be smelly. colonel angus may be a little rough . but deep down ... Colonel angus is very sweet.
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Reply #24 posted 05/09/18 9:08am

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hausofmoi7 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:




Trump is an idiot. Perhaps he really does believe he single-handedly got NK to the table. Perhaps he wants the attention diverted from his imminent impeachment, But having said all that, I highly doubt Israel has 200 nukes pointed at anyone. That’s just bat shit bananas. As much as I respect Powell if he really said that, that’s just a big bowl of shit. I mean seriously? How many nukes does anyone need pointed at Iran lol


According to leaked emails, Colin Powell disclosed that Israel has at least 200 nuclear weapons directed a Tehran.
The point is that people in western politics claim Israel is a nuclear free nation, when in fact they are not according to Colin Powell.
This hostility and aggression towards Iran is the reason why people in the west fear that Iran would actually seek a nuclear weapon to begin with.


You do know this is some actual verified tea? :c:



Colin Powell leaked emails: Israel has '200 nukes all pointed at Iran', former US secretary of state
https://www.google.com.au...html%3famp



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[Edited 5/9/18 4:36am]

Powell also testified that he was positive that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction. He was WRONG. 200 Nukes pointed at Iran sound Uber-preposterous.
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Reply #25 posted 05/09/18 2:34pm

poppys

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

hausofmoi7 said:
According to leaked emails, Colin Powell disclosed that Israel has at least 200 nuclear weapons directed a Tehran. The point is that people in western politics claim Israel is a nuclear free nation, when in fact they are not according to Colin Powell. This hostility and aggression towards Iran is the reason why people in the west fear that Iran would actually seek a nuclear weapon to begin with. You do know this is some actual verified tea? coffee Colin Powell leaked emails: Israel has '200 nukes all pointed at Iran', former US secretary of state https://www.google.com.au...html%3famp . [Edited 5/9/18 4:36am]

Powell also testified that he was positive that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction. He was WRONG. 200 Nukes pointed at Iran sound Uber-preposterous.


That is true. BUT - he took one for the team, good soldier. At the time, many of us were aware he knew it was a lie. That was a sad day of "testimony", I watched it. If events had gone another way in the Bush II administration, Powell would have made a good presidential candidate. It was career ending, what a waste.

Beware of minimizing what Israel is capable of - with US support and plenty of $$. They have legitimized the settlements and will never stop taking land.

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Reply #26 posted 05/09/18 5:52pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief

the dead did nothing to prevent Iran from making them. It made it harder to inspect the sites and actually paved a path for them to be allowed to make them.


Fake news. By ALL accounts Iran was complying.

"'Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.'' - Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #27 posted 05/09/18 9:18pm

13cjk13

DiminutiveRocker said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

the dead did nothing to prevent Iran from making them. It made it harder to inspect the sites and actually paved a path for them to be allowed to make them.


Fake news. By ALL accounts Iran was complying.

It's all Fox "news" has is FAKE "news". Made up talking points that right wing shills love to spew.

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Reply #28 posted 05/10/18 3:01am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

13cjk13 said:

The deal was working. Fuck Trump, he is garbage.


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief



Wahahahahahaha... Merkel and Macron....

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Reply #29 posted 05/10/18 5:41am

13cjk13

TweetyV6 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Yes, why would we ever want peace in the world between countries and less nuclear weaponry.
The deal was working.

Trump idiot continues to alienate our allies making the US no longer the global leader - we look instead ot Merkel and Macron to do the righ thing.

disbelief



Wahahahahahaha... Merkel and Macron....

Yep, no more global leader here, just a piece of shit in our white house.

"Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost".
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