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Thread started 05/07/18 2:34pm

benni

Zimmerman is back in the news....AGAIN

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Reply #1 posted 05/07/18 2:52pm

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That's basically what he was doing to Trayvon Martin, and when Martin confronted him, Zimmerman, on the losing end of FIST FIGHT, did the cowardly thing and pulled out a gun. Fuck that fat bastard
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/18 3:33pm

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How many times does he have to get into trouble, without them doing anything?

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Reply #3 posted 05/07/18 3:57pm

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What a weird story. I didn't remember a guy is in jail for 20 years for shooting at him in 2015.

How is Zimmerman that lucky? What is the punishment for this new stalking misdemeanor? Bet no jail time. disbelief

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Reply #4 posted 05/07/18 4:36pm

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Asshole should be behind bars for the rest of his miserable life.

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Reply #5 posted 05/07/18 5:50pm

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jjhunsecker said:

That's basically what he was doing to Trayvon Martin, and when Martin confronted him, Zimmerman, on the losing end of FIST FIGHT, did the cowardly thing and pulled out a gun. Fuck that fat bastard

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Reply #6 posted 05/07/18 7:34pm

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I wonder if he was trying to bait the guy so he could do it again?

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Reply #7 posted 05/08/18 5:29am

Empress

I'm shocked that someone has taken this guy out. I mean really, why is he still walking around causing shit?? He's a loser and someone should put him in his place.

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Reply #8 posted 05/08/18 5:46am

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Empress said:

I'm shocked that someone has taken this guy out. I mean really, why is he still walking around causing shit?? He's a loser and someone should put him in his place.

wait so you think he should be murdered? wow! that is deeply troubling.

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Reply #9 posted 05/08/18 5:53am

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Empress said:

I'm shocked that someone has taken this guy out. I mean really, why is he still walking around causing shit?? He's a loser and someone should put him in his place.

Hopefully he'll mess with the wrong person and get his. Nothing but a fake tough guy.

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Reply #10 posted 05/08/18 6:00am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Empress said:

I'm shocked that someone has taken this guy out. I mean really, why is he still walking around causing shit?? He's a loser and someone should put him in his place.

wait so you think he should be murdered? wow! that is deeply troubling.

locker room talk, that's all.

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Reply #11 posted 05/08/18 6:04am

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13cjk13 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait so you think he should be murdered? wow! that is deeply troubling.

locker room talk, that's all.

ok if it was not meant to be literal that is fine. but I find it odd that you think that this is something joke worthy.

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Reply #12 posted 05/08/18 6:51am

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Yea, some people should die.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #13 posted 05/08/18 6:59am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Yea, some people should die.

even if he had been convicted of 2nd-degree murder (which is clearly was not: I love going to all those topics and reading how I called damn near every single thing step by step and point by point... some of them MONTHS in advance) that would not been death.

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Reply #14 posted 05/08/18 7:56am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Empress said:

I'm shocked that someone has taken this guy out. I mean really, why is he still walking around causing shit?? He's a loser and someone should put him in his place.

Hopefully he'll mess with the wrong person and get his. Nothing but a fake tough guy.

A fat fuck , who when losing a fist fight, did the pussy thing and pulled a gun out a killed a kid because he "feared for his life"....One day, he'll come across the wrong person...And well, shit happens. You reap what you sow

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Reply #15 posted 05/08/18 7:58am

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[Edited 5/8/18 8:03am]

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Reply #16 posted 05/08/18 8:46am

OnlyNDaUsa

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Hopefully he'll mess with the wrong person and get his. Nothing but a fake tough guy.

A fat fuck , who when losing a fist fight, did the pussy thing and pulled a gun out a killed a kid because he "feared for his life"....One day, he'll come across the wrong person...And well, shit happens. You reap what you sow

yeah that seems inevitable...

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Reply #17 posted 05/08/18 9:43am

Empress

OnlyNDaUsa said:

13cjk13 said:

locker room talk, that's all.

ok if it was not meant to be literal that is fine. but I find it odd that you think that this is something joke worthy.

I am shocked someone hasnt' taken him out. I'm not saying he "should" be murdered, but he certainly deserve a good fucking over and jail time.

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Reply #18 posted 05/08/18 9:48am

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Empress said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

ok if it was not meant to be literal that is fine. but I find it odd that you think that this is something joke worthy.

I am shocked someone hasnt' taken him out. I'm not saying he "should" be murdered, but he certainly deserve a good fucking over and jail time.

I said all along he committed a crime--just not 2nd-degree murder.

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Reply #19 posted 05/09/18 6:25am

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DiminutiveRocker said:



jjhunsecker said:


That's basically what he was doing to Trayvon Martin, and when Martin confronted him, Zimmerman, on the losing end of FIST FIGHT, did the cowardly thing and pulled out a gun. Fuck that fat bastard


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I second that. The truth about him is finally coming out. Many of us said Zimmerman was a crazed stalker who was following Trayvon, a 17 yr old, defending himself from an adult male stranger, he was trying to get away from. I hope the jurors that freed him are losing sleep, for letting Zimmerman get away with it. What was crazy was all the people defending Zimmerman, and sending him money. They didn’t care that he murdered an innocent minor, who tried hard to get away from Zimmerman stalking him, and defending himself against a stranger who he saw as a threat.


Zimmermam’s karma will eventually catch up to him, because he has a documented, violent history, and he is his own enemy.
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Reply #20 posted 05/09/18 6:36am

13cjk13

OnlyNDaUsa said:

13cjk13 said:

locker room talk, that's all.

ok if it was not meant to be literal that is fine. but I find it odd that you think that this is something joke worthy.

Im not joking. You're his biggest champion so you must be a little touchy about the topic.

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Reply #21 posted 05/09/18 6:47am

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Co-sign mad

I second that. The truth about him is finally coming out. Many of us said Zimmerman was a crazed stalker who was following Trayvon, a 17 yr old, defending himself from an adult male stranger, he was trying to get away from. I hope the jurors that freed him are losing sleep, for letting Zimmerman get away with it. What was crazy was all the people defending Zimmerman, and sending him money. They didn’t care that he murdered an innocent minor, who tried hard to get away from Zimmerman stalking him, and defending himself against a stranger who he saw as a threat. Zimmermam’s karma will eventually catch up to him, because he has a documented, violent history, and he is his own enemy. [Edited 5/9/18 6:31am]

I hate to hash this out over and over but since you want to make up or repeat untrue statements:


Zimmerman was not stalking Martin. He was under the requests of the dispatch watching where Martin went. Not by neither legal meaning or a lay meaning.


Martin turned around and went back towards where Zimmerman was in order to confront him. At that point, NO ONE Had broken any laws and no one had given anyone reason to confront anyone else. And there was nothing illegal with Martin approaching Zimmerman and confronting him either.


The jurors who acquitted Zimmerman made the correct decision. The one who should be losing sleep is the one who decided to charge him with 2nd Degree murder. There was ZERO evidence of "depraved mind" or that Zimmerman acted "without regard for human life." And that is not even addressing self-defense.


Now, most of what you said is the same old you are just following the spin and all that... maybe you did not follow the case or trial...but when you said that Martin "tried hard" to get away... well that is just not true. Martin reacher his dad's house but he decided to go back to confront Zimmerman and it was Martin BY ALL EVIDENCE and by ALL Accounts who without any real cause attacked Zimmerman. NOW: I will agree that in Martin's mind he was possibly acting in self-defense (I said that many times) but he was not on trial so that is not relevant to Zimmerman's state of mind.


It is funny that you only want to give the benefit of self-defense to Martin--but it was Martin who chose to not only NOT call 911 (if he would have it would have ended in an instant) and chose to turn back to go look for Zimmerman.


and everything I said comes from the actual evidence presented by the prosecution.

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Reply #22 posted 05/09/18 8:25am

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Co-sign mad

I second that. The truth about him is finally coming out. Many of us said Zimmerman was a crazed stalker who was following Trayvon, a 17 yr old, defending himself from an adult male stranger, he was trying to get away from. I hope the jurors that freed him are losing sleep, for letting Zimmerman get away with it. What was crazy was all the people defending Zimmerman, and sending him money. They didn’t care that he murdered an innocent minor, who tried hard to get away from Zimmerman stalking him, and defending himself against a stranger who he saw as a threat. Zimmermam’s karma will eventually catch up to him, because he has a documented, violent history, and he is his own enemy. [Edited 5/9/18 6:31am]

Very true. And just imagine if Zimmerman was Black, and shot an unarmed kid after a physical confrontation where the other party had no weapon. The closest comparison I can make was Jthe case of John White of Long Island, NY, a Black man who shot an unarmed White kid...who was on his property and threatening him and took a swing at him. Of course the outcome was different- White served several years in jail until his sentence was commuted by the Governor David Patterson .



And remember, in the minds of many, Trayvon Martin wasn't a 17 year old kid, but a "ghetto thug". So he got what he deserved. Remember when Geraldo Rivera said "the hoodie" was what put Black kids in danger...BTW, Geraldo's own son was just arrested for assault...wonder if a hoodie was involved ....

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Reply #23 posted 05/09/18 9:28am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said: I second that. The truth about him is finally coming out. Many of us said Zimmerman was a crazed stalker who was following Trayvon, a 17 yr old, defending himself from an adult male stranger, he was trying to get away from. I hope the jurors that freed him are losing sleep, for letting Zimmerman get away with it. What was crazy was all the people defending Zimmerman, and sending him money. They didn’t care that he murdered an innocent minor, who tried hard to get away from Zimmerman stalking him, and defending himself against a stranger who he saw as a threat. Zimmermam’s karma will eventually catch up to him, because he has a documented, violent history, and he is his own enemy. [Edited 5/9/18 6:31am]

I hate to hash this out over and over but since you want to make up or repeat untrue statements:


Zimmerman was not stalking Martin. He was under the requests of the dispatch watching where Martin went. Not by neither legal meaning or a lay meaning.


Martin turned around and went back towards where Zimmerman was in order to confront him. At that point, NO ONE Had broken any laws and no one had given anyone reason to confront anyone else. And there was nothing illegal with Martin approaching Zimmerman and confronting him either.


The jurors who acquitted Zimmerman made the correct decision. The one who should be losing sleep is the one who decided to charge him with 2nd Degree murder. There was ZERO evidence of "depraved mind" or that Zimmerman acted "without regard for human life." And that is not even addressing self-defense.


Now, most of what you said is the same old you are just following the spin and all that... maybe you did not follow the case or trial...but when you said that Martin "tried hard" to get away... well that is just not true. Martin reacher his dad's house but he decided to go back to confront Zimmerman and it was Martin BY ALL EVIDENCE and by ALL Accounts who without any real cause attacked Zimmerman. NOW: I will agree that in Martin's mind he was possibly acting in self-defense (I said that many times) but he was not on trial so that is not relevant to Zimmerman's state of mind.


It is funny that you only want to give the benefit of self-defense to Martin--but it was Martin who chose to not only NOT call 911 (if he would have it would have ended in an instant) and chose to turn back to go look for Zimmerman.


and everything I said comes from the actual evidence presented by the prosecution.


1. Dispatch told Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon, to let the police handle it. Zimmerman ignored what dispatch told him and stated, "They always get away."

2. Trayvon knew he was not doing anything wrong. He was trying to get home. He was being followed by some stranger. THAT is enough to cause anyone to either fight or flee (natural response to anxiety, which being followed by a stranger would cause anyone to feel anxious). And the ONLY proof that we have that Trayvon turned around and approached Zimmerman is Zimmerman's accounting of the events that happened during the course of the night. Forgive me, if I don't believe Zimmerman. He has not shown himself to be a trustworthy individual. There is no other evidence to prove that Trayvon turned around, that he went back, that he confronted Zimmerman. For all we know, Zimmerman, deciding to play cop because the real police weren't getting there fast enough for him, confronted Trayvon with the gun, grabbed Trayvon, and Trayvon fought back thinking he was about to be murdered. In that situation, it would make sense for Trayvon to try to go for the gun, to get it out of Zimmerman's hands so he wouldn't be murdered.


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Reply #24 posted 05/09/18 10:02am

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benni said:

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1. Dispatch told Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon, to let the police handle it. Zimmerman ignored what dispatch told him and stated, "They always get away."

2. Trayvon knew he was not doing anything wrong. He was trying to get home. He was being followed by some stranger. THAT is enough to cause anyone to either fight or flee (natural response to anxiety, which being followed by a stranger would cause anyone to feel anxious). And the ONLY proof that we have that Trayvon turned around and approached Zimmerman is Zimmerman's accounting of the events that happened during the course of the night. Forgive me, if I don't believe Zimmerman. He has not shown himself to be a trustworthy individual. There is no other evidence to prove that Trayvon turned around, that he went back, that he confronted Zimmerman. For all we know, Zimmerman, deciding to play cop because the real police weren't getting there fast enough for him, confronted Trayvon with the gun, grabbed Trayvon, and Trayvon fought back thinking he was about to be murdered. In that situation, it would make sense for Trayvon to try to go for the gun, to get it out of Zimmerman's hands so he wouldn't be murdered.


1) not exactly


Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Ok (But it seems he continue to follow him as he ended up in the dark area near the T were the fight occurred.


He did say "These assholes they always get away."
Just after being asked to let the dispatch know if "does anything else."

But that was well before the "we do not NEED you to do that..."


2) I agree that Martin was well within his rights to confront Zimmerman. However, this part of your post is just wrong.

"There is no other evidence to prove that Trayvon turned around, that he went back, that he confronted Zimmerman."

Actually, there was physical evidence of this is where the shooting occurred. And it was what Zimmerman said happened (3 or 4 or 5 times) which was corroborated by the state's star witness Rachel Jeantel.


EDIT FOLLOWS:
Anyway, I'm done... I agree he should have got to prison. But he did not commit 2nd-degree murder. So I will ignore any other inaccurate accounts or retellings or revisionist statements of this case in this topic.

[Edited 5/9/18 10:07am]

must not correct false statements...

[Edited 5/9/18 10:15am]

Stupid Grammarly is acting up!

[Edited 5/9/18 10:18am]

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Reply #25 posted 05/09/18 10:12am

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benni said:


1. Dispatch told Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon, to let the police handle it. Zimmerman ignored what dispatch told him and stated, "They always get away."

2. Trayvon knew he was not doing anything wrong. He was trying to get home. He was being followed by some stranger. THAT is enough to cause anyone to either fight or flee (natural response to anxiety, which being followed by a stranger would cause anyone to feel anxious). And the ONLY proof that we have that Trayvon turned around and approached Zimmerman is Zimmerman's accounting of the events that happened during the course of the night. Forgive me, if I don't believe Zimmerman. He has not shown himself to be a trustworthy individual. There is no other evidence to prove that Trayvon turned around, that he went back, that he confronted Zimmerman. For all we know, Zimmerman, deciding to play cop because the real police weren't getting there fast enough for him, confronted Trayvon with the gun, grabbed Trayvon, and Trayvon fought back thinking he was about to be murdered. In that situation, it would make sense for Trayvon to try to go for the gun, to get it out of Zimmerman's hands so he wouldn't be murdered.


Exactly. If I was being followed by a strange man- one who is not a policeman or even in a security guard uniform- there is a very good chance that I would confront him, to get the upper hand. I would have no idea what this person wanted- they may have been a robber or a rapist or a killer, for all I know. As you say, we only have Zimmerman's story, and his personal background shows a history of violence and distemper. The bottom line is, this overweight and out of shape man was losing a fair fist fight with a teenager, and instead of accepting that he was beat, ramped it up to homicide by bringing in deadly force.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:



Co-sign mad



I second that. The truth about him is finally coming out. Many of us said Zimmerman was a crazed stalker who was following Trayvon, a 17 yr old, defending himself from an adult male stranger, he was trying to get away from. I hope the jurors that freed him are losing sleep, for letting Zimmerman get away with it. What was crazy was all the people defending Zimmerman, and sending him money. They didn’t care that he murdered an innocent minor, who tried hard to get away from Zimmerman stalking him, and defending himself against a stranger who he saw as a threat. Zimmermam’s karma will eventually catch up to him, because he has a documented, violent history, and he is his own enemy. [Edited 5/9/18 6:31am]



I hate to hash this out over and over but since you want to make up or repeat untrue statements:


Zimmerman was not stalking Martin. He was under the requests of the dispatch watching where Martin went. Not by neither legal meaning or a lay meaning.


Martin turned around and went back towards where Zimmerman was in order to confront him. At that point, NO ONE Had broken any laws and no one had given anyone reason to confront anyone else. And there was nothing illegal with Martin approaching Zimmerman and confronting him either.


The jurors who acquitted Zimmerman made the correct decision. The one who should be losing sleep is the one who decided to charge him with 2nd Degree murder. There was ZERO evidence of "depraved mind" or that Zimmerman acted "without regard for human life." And that is not even addressing self-defense.


Now, most of what you said is the same old you are just following the spin and all that... maybe you did not follow the case or trial...but when you said that Martin "tried hard" to get away... well that is just not true. Martin reacher his dad's house but he decided to go back to confront Zimmerman and it was Martin BY ALL EVIDENCE and by ALL Accounts who without any real cause attacked Zimmerman. NOW: I will agree that in Martin's mind he was possibly acting in self-defense (I said that many times) but he was not on trial so that is not relevant to Zimmerman's state of mind.


It is funny that you only want to give the benefit of self-defense to Martin--but it was Martin who chose to not only NOT call 911 (if he would have it would have ended in an instant) and chose to turn back to go look for Zimmerman.


and everything I said comes from the actual evidence presented by the prosecution.


Look I’m not even going to disrespect Trayvon by going back and forth with you on this.

I pray for Trayvon’s parents’ peace of mind, and that Zimmerman never have peace of mind for murdering a minor he chose to follow, based on Zimmerman racially profiling Trayvon, who was not committing any crime.

All those folks that supported Zimmerman, well I’m glad I’m not in their shoes. It’s a shame all that he has gotten away with all these years, following Trayvon’s death.
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Reply #27 posted 05/09/18 3:30pm

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Hopefully he'll mess with the wrong person and get his. Nothing but a fake tough guy.

A fat fuck , who when losing a fist fight, did the pussy thing and pulled a gun out a killed a kid because he "feared for his life"....One day, he'll come across the wrong person...And well, shit happens. You reap what you sow

I'm thinking of moving to Florida. wink

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Reply #28 posted 05/09/18 10:14pm

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uPtoWnNY said:



jjhunsecker said:




uPtoWnNY said:




Hopefully he'll mess with the wrong person and get his. Nothing but a fake tough guy.




A fat fuck , who when losing a fist fight, did the pussy thing and pulled a gun out a killed a kid because he "feared for his life"....One day, he'll come across the wrong person...And well, shit happens. You reap what you sow




I'm thinking of moving to Florida. wink



Stand your Ground....
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Reply #29 posted 05/10/18 9:45am

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uPtoWnNY said:

jjhunsecker said:

A fat fuck , who when losing a fist fight, did the pussy thing and pulled a gun out a killed a kid because he "feared for his life"....One day, he'll come across the wrong person...And well, shit happens. You reap what you sow

I'm thinking of moving to Florida. wink

Go for it!

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