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Thread started 03/07/18 5:45pm

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Black Panthers 1968

So I was going through my book Howard L. Bingham's Black Panthers 1968

and reading up on Kathlean Cleaver and a memoir she is preparing...
I did not know Eldridge(RIP) had some very 'anti-Black' views especially about women.

He's now Republican and Mormon or of the Church of the Latter Day Saints.
Reading some of his views on black woman causes me to look at 'Soul on Ice' very differently now.

I always found it interesting that the early face of the Black Panthers were very 'mulatto' -I'm using that term in the historic sense. And that outside of Huey, Kathleen, whose face is very 'Euro' was the one put out front the farthest.

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I'll post some pieces from Kathleen as well

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #1 posted 03/07/18 5:50pm

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some pretty interesting piece from this site

Being Anti-Black woman is NOT new. Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver admits to hating and raping Black women

http://www.mammynomore.co...ack-women/

I always discuss misogynoir and how black males have never been accountable for their actions against black women, and pretty much how Black males in the public eye are still praised after raping and beating women.I was at Barnes and Noble and saw the “Soul on Ice” book written by Eldridge Cleaver, former Black Panther.

I remember when people started to circulate a picture of Eldridge Cleaver and his wife at that time, because his wife was light skinned, as an attempt to defend Kendrick Lamar against the dark skinned chick who accused him of hating dark women. The argument was you can have a light skinned woman and be pro black. No one said you can’t date light skinned women because they are light skinned. The blogger was basically pointing out that it is possible that he is like MOST Black male celebrities that hate dark skin women and go out of their way to date non-Black women. Most Black male celebrities have no shame in saying they prefer other races of women over their own and they “prefer” light skinned. See who made the list Bougie Black Girl came up with here .

Well it turns out that all the “rumors” and speculation was true : in Cleaver’s book he expresses his hate for Black women. Many Black women and people in general are unaware of what was written in this book, and those who did know didn’t seem to care.

Eldridge Cleaver was a troubled man conflicted as to why he hated Black women then starts to hate white women.Instead of addressing the issue, he used it as an excuse to harm Black women. He admits to practicing rape on the Black women in the ghetto (why not the suburbs??? Respectability politics and believing that poor women are beneath him and unworthy of respect) and then goes on to rape white women.

Conclusion: Eldridge Cleaver dated light skin women because they were indeed closer to white in his eyes AND he wasn’t for all Black people. He was just for straight Black men just as 90% of Black civil rights leaders. Kathleen Cleaver actually later spoke out about how the Black panther party fetishized light skinned women and hated dark skin women when she left the party.

He also believed the bullshit that Dwight man divided us by giving Black women jobs and government assistance

Black women: Black men as a collective have always hated us and always will. Hard truth to swallow and once we realize this, be selective with the Black men we stand for,pour more energy into SELF, STOP reproducing with them our lives will be better. Stop being mammies. Stop denying with “not all men” the shit is dead and beyond repair because they clearly do not care.

When they say they love you they mean your bodies and what you can do for them, not you.

So stop praising this rapist (its okay I know you hard core misogynists that act like “good men” won’t.)and stop glorifying him as a good leader

And NO I do not have to say “not all Black men” miss me with the silencing tactics

This post should be an eye opener to Black women that they need to stop saying that men back in the day were so much better. Truth is they hid their shit better. Truth is Black men in 2015 come from the same system as the men back in the day.

Truth is Black men still have these sentiments today! So it is time to disconnect from the Black male collective and work to restore and heal the self, because we have always been on our own and likely always will.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #2 posted 03/11/18 3:56am

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Oh yeah, some of the Panthers definitely had some serious issues. Me personally, i got nothing but good memories of the Black Panthers. I was just a young kid when they were around, but i remember their free lunch program, and a few other things that they did for my community(in San Francisco).


I gotta get some sleep, but I'll try to comment on the specific topic, later.

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #3 posted 03/11/18 10:32am

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They even let whites be members. Unlike FOI.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #4 posted 03/11/18 2:30pm

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I see people attacking one another on social media these days. Some of it is very disheartening. You can see it on Periscope and Tagged in particular. Black men will attack black women on there with text (or white men attack white women). Attack there social status! Today some black lady was explaining how she was not a whore and didn't sleep with everyone, had to have feelings for other person to have sex and she got attacked pretty bad. Made me wonder about what is going on socially with people. I believe the 80s kids had it bad with often lack of family structure and now we have lots of disrespect. Probably everything relates to how people grew up.

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Reply #5 posted 03/11/18 2:32pm

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^^that passage from book was pretty heavy. sad

You better Watch Out! I'm a WAR MACHINE!
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Reply #6 posted 03/12/18 7:40am

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Some very sharp 'cats' in the party. Varied ideals and opinions. The original group are my area of interest. What happened afterward, after they were dispersed is the result of lack of vision.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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