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Reply #60 posted 01/11/18 12:39pm

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yeah, he said some hateful stuff... do you not agree that this and his threat against trump was hateful?

Even JJ seemed to agree with me that it was hateful...

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What exactly do you mean by "hateful " ?

was it kind?

And again, what would be WRONG with hating sexual predation and lying and willful ignorance and bigotry?


did I imply a value judgment? and wait? what do you mean by Wrong? Do you mean Bad? as in intrinsically? (if so then yes it is intrinsically bad to be hateful as if you consider the reason or consequences you alter the formula)

Perhaps the world would be a better place if more people HATED those things...


so more hate? So can someone else, someone without contest of the WHY--by your standard-- hate bobby for something like this?

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Reply #61 posted 01/11/18 12:49pm

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You don't know what you are typing about. They threw a fit when he traveled to Italy.

Really?

http://www.telegraph.co.u...okes-abou/

Robert De Niro would be welcome, Italians say, as actor jokes about emigrating following Trump victory



Italy says it would welcome Robert De Niro with open arms after the actor jokingly said he was considering returning to his roots over his disgust at Donald Trump’s election as President.

De Niro made the tongue-in-cheek remark when he was asked by the talk show host Jimmy Kimmel whether he still wanted to punch Mr Trump in the face, as he had threatened to do during the election campaign, when he called the billionaire property developer “a punk, a dog, a pig, a bullshit artist and a mutt.”

He told the talk show host that the Italian side of his family originally came from a town called Ferrazzano in the central region of Molise and that he was an Italian citizen.

“I’m going to probably have to move there,” he said, with a smile.

DeNiro is disliked by many for only taking negative stereotypical roles in movies. I knew the tough guy, I would like to punch the President, stereotype he is playing into would be questioned. If he was to be crytical of Obama and said those things he would be called a racist.

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Reply #62 posted 01/11/18 1:59pm

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His movies even made Camille Paglia pc.

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Reply #63 posted 01/11/18 2:13pm

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poppys said:




SuperFurryAnimal said:




You don't know what you are typing about. They threw a fit when he traveled to Italy.



Really?

http://www.telegraph.co.u...okes-abou/

Robert De Niro would be welcome, Italians say, as actor jokes about emigrating following Trump victory







Italy says it would welcome Robert De Niro with open arms after the actor jokingly said he was considering returning to his roots over his disgust at Donald Trump’s election as President.


De Niro made the tongue-in-cheek remark when he was asked by the talk show host Jimmy Kimmel whether he still wanted to punch Mr Trump in the face, as he had threatened to do during the election campaign, when he called the billionaire property developer “a punk, a dog, a pig, a bullshit artist and a mutt.”


He told the talk show host that the Italian side of his family originally came from a town called Ferrazzano in the central region of Molise and that he was an Italian citizen.



“I’m going to probably have to move there,” he said, with a smile.




























DeNiro is disliked by many for only taking negative stereotypical roles in movies. I knew the tough guy, I would like to punch the President, stereotype he is playing into would be questioned. If he was to be crytical of Obama and said those things he would be called a racist.



Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish).

As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way!
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Reply #64 posted 01/11/18 2:51pm

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Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish). As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way! lol

Don't honour wise guy De Niro, say US Italians

The Order of the Sons of Italy in America (Osia), which is based in Washington and has 600,000 members and donors, and describes itself as the oldest and largest association of its kind, is indignant that the actor has "made a career of playing gangsters of Italian descent".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/usa.italy

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Reply #65 posted 01/11/18 2:53pm

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jjhunsecker said:


Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish). As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way! lol


Don't honour wise guy De Niro, say US Italians


The Order of the Sons of Italy in America (Osia), which is based in Washington and has 600,000 members and donors, and describes itself as the oldest and largest association of its kind, is indignant that the actor has "made a career of playing gangsters of Italian descent".


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/usa.italy


Name one actor of Italian descent who never played a gangster
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Reply #66 posted 01/11/18 4:57pm

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jjhunsecker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:



jjhunsecker said:


Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish). As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way! lol


Don't honour wise guy De Niro, say US Italians


The Order of the Sons of Italy in America (Osia), which is based in Washington and has 600,000 members and donors, and describes itself as the oldest and largest association of its kind, is indignant that the actor has "made a career of playing gangsters of Italian descent".


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/usa.italy


Name one actor of Italian descent who never played a gangster


Wow! Name one italian that did play a gangster that is racist. It is like asking name a black actor that did not portray a gangster. Plenty.
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Reply #67 posted 01/11/18 5:14pm

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jjhunsecker said:


Name one actor of Italian descent who never played a gangster


Wow! Name one italian that did play a gangster that is racist. It is like asking name a black actor that did not portray a gangster. Plenty.


Then name one Italian-American actor who has not played a gangster. And why did this group (and who knows what exactly is their motivation)- single out Robert De Niro , when most prominent Italian American actors have also played mobsters ?

(And actually, 2 of De Niro's greatest performances- in "Cape Fear" and "Heat"- he did not play an Italian bad guy)
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Reply #68 posted 01/12/18 12:29pm

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poppys said:

free2bFreeda2 said:

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clapping clapping clapping clapping

DeNiro....love it!! lol

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Reply #69 posted 01/12/18 12:30pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

jjhunsecker said:

Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish). As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way! lol

Don't honour wise guy De Niro, say US Italians

The Order of the Sons of Italy in America (Osia), which is based in Washington and has 600,000 members and donors, and describes itself as the oldest and largest association of its kind, is indignant that the actor has "made a career of playing gangsters of Italian descent".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/usa.italy

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Italian gansta-mafia is a part of American history. We can't act like it didn't happen.

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Reply #70 posted 01/12/18 12:35pm

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cloveringold85 said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:




jjhunsecker said:


Funny, because every Italian I know- and it's a lot, as I want to school in a primarily Italian neighborhood, and I'm related to several- actually WORSHIP De Niro. He's a hero- a two time Oscar winner and successful businessman, with his own restaurant and production company and film festival. They're PROUD of a local boy who did so well (though technically De Niro is only 1/4 Italian. His father was 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Irish, and his mother was Jewish). As for those "offended " by his language, almost everyone I grew up with in New York City spoke this way! lol


Don't honour wise guy De Niro, say US Italians


The Order of the Sons of Italy in America (Osia), which is based in Washington and has 600,000 members and donors, and describes itself as the oldest and largest association of its kind, is indignant that the actor has "made a career of playing gangsters of Italian descent".


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/usa.italy



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Italian gansta-mafia is a part of American history. We can't act like it didn't happen.




Exactly. And my point is that if this organization wants to honor Italian-American actors who never played a mobster, they're going to have a hard time finding one
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Reply #71 posted 01/12/18 12:41pm

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Wow! Name one italian that did play a gangster that is racist. It is like asking name a black actor that did not portray a gangster. Plenty.
Then name one Italian-American actor who has not played a gangster. And why did this group (and who knows what exactly is their motivation)- single out Robert De Niro , when most prominent Italian American actors have also played mobsters ? (And actually, 2 of De Niro's greatest performances- in "Cape Fear" and "Heat"- he did not play an Italian bad guy)

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Reply #72 posted 01/12/18 12:56pm

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jjhunsecker said:


SuperFurryAnimal said:
Wow! Name one italian that did play a gangster that is racist. It is like asking name a black actor that did not portray a gangster. Plenty.

Then name one Italian-American actor who has not played a gangster. And why did this group (and who knows what exactly is their motivation)- single out Robert De Niro , when most prominent Italian American actors have also played mobsters ? (And actually, 2 of De Niro's greatest performances- in "Cape Fear" and "Heat"- he did not play an Italian bad guy)


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See "Bound" (1996) with Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon
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Reply #73 posted 01/12/18 2:00pm

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Christopher Meloni

See "Bound" (1996) with Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon

Cult classic. Had it on VHS tape. lol

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Reply #74 posted 01/12/18 2:19pm

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jjhunsecker said:


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Christopher Meloni





See "Bound" (1996) with Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon

Cult classic. Had it on VHS tape. lol



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Reply #75 posted 01/12/18 2:39pm

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Cult classic. Had it on VHS tape. lol

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Reply #76 posted 01/12/18 9:14pm

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to those unaware of mr de niro's filmography and think his only claim to movie fame is playing the mafia, gangster roles is terribly misguided.
hia filmography as follows.

: https://m.aceshowbiz.com/...raphy.html
🎲
mafia related and crime movies is what movie goers pay big money to see. I'm totally positive in accessing that 95% of the people viewing this thread have seen the godfather trilogy (more than once), as well as at least 75% have viewed all six seasons of 'the sopranos'.
So what i"m keying in here is imo, it's a lot hypocritical to condemn mr
de niro for playing Mafioso - bad guy
- gangster roles when one has paid ones money to check it/him and these types of movies out.
by the way the film 'Raging Bull"(1980) he stars as Jake La Mott,
that movie was his jumpstart claim to fame as a great character actor. one of the greatest actors of our time.

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Christopher Meloni

See "Bound" (1996) with Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon

Did he play a Mafia character or just the son of a mafia character?

Milo Ventimiglia?

Monica Belluci?

Joey Lawrence (Migogna)?

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Reply #78 posted 01/14/18 7:01am

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to those unaware of mr de niro's filmography and think his only claim to movie fame is playing the mafia, gangster roles is terribly misguided. hia filmography as follows. : https://m.aceshowbiz.com/...raphy.html 🎲 mafia related and crime movies is what movie goers pay big money to see. I'm totally positive in accessing that 95% of the people viewing this thread have seen the godfather trilogy (more than once), as well as at least 75% have viewed all six seasons of 'the sopranos'. So what i"m keying in here is imo, it's a lot hypocritical to condemn mr de niro for playing Mafioso - bad guy - gangster roles when one has paid ones money to check it/him and these types of movies out. by the way the film 'Raging Bull"(1980) he stars as Jake La Mott, that movie was his jumpstart claim to fame as a great character actor. one of the greatest actors of our time. [Edited 1/12/18 21:37pm]

DeNiro branched out after he got called out. Not even a 100% Italian so his mobster roles make no sense. DeNiro is of Irish and Italian descent on his father's side, while his mother had Dutch, English, French, and German ancestry.

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Reply #79 posted 01/14/18 7:51am

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to those unaware of mr de niro's filmography and think his only claim to movie fame is playing the mafia, gangster roles is terribly misguided. hia filmography as follows. : https://m.aceshowbiz.com/...raphy.html 🎲 mafia related and crime movies is what movie goers pay big money to see. I'm totally positive in accessing that 95% of the people viewing this thread have seen the godfather trilogy (more than once), as well as at least 75% have viewed all six seasons of 'the sopranos'. So what i"m keying in here is imo, it's a lot hypocritical to condemn mr de niro for playing Mafioso - bad guy - gangster roles when one has paid ones money to check it/him and these types of movies out. by the way the film 'Raging Bull"(1980) he stars as Jake La Mott, that movie was his jumpstart claim to fame as a great character actor. one of the greatest actors of our time. [Edited 1/12/18 21:37pm]

DeNiro branched out after he got called out. Not even a 100% Italian so his mobster roles make no sense. DeNiro is of Irish and Italian descent on his father's side, while his mother had Dutch, English, French, and German ancestry.

DeNiro branched out? Well, Mario Puzo had already written the Godfather, maybe there were other good books/scripts around. No actor could deny Nick Pileggi's Goodfellas (played an Irish mobster), are you kidding me? This is ridiculous. No matter what DNA mix he is He HATES Trump, and with good reason.

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Reply #80 posted 01/14/18 1:11pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



jjhunsecker said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



Christopher Meloni





See "Bound" (1996) with Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon


Did he play a Mafia character or just the son of a mafia character?



Milo Ventimiglia?



Monica Belluci?



Joey Lawrence (Migogna)?



Meloni's character was the mobster son of the Don in "Bound ".

Joey Lawrence????

lol lol

Ok, you got me there. If this organization wants to honor HIM over De Niro because Bobby D played a Mafioso, then more power to them ! (And I guess Pacino, Gandolfini, Sorvino, Buscemi, Pesci, Travolta, De Vito, Mantegna , Stallone etc, are off limits too... )
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Reply #81 posted 01/14/18 1:27pm

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free2bFreeda2 said:


to those unaware of mr de niro's filmography and think his only claim to movie fame is playing the mafia, gangster roles is terribly misguided. hia filmography as follows. : https://m.aceshowbiz.com/...raphy.html 🎲 mafia related and crime movies is what movie goers pay big money to see. I'm totally positive in accessing that 95% of the people viewing this thread have seen the godfather trilogy (more than once), as well as at least 75% have viewed all six seasons of 'the sopranos'. So what i"m keying in here is imo, it's a lot hypocritical to condemn mr de niro for playing Mafioso - bad guy - gangster roles when one has paid ones money to check it/him and these types of movies out. by the way the film 'Raging Bull"(1980) he stars as Jake La Mott, that movie was his jumpstart claim to fame as a great character actor. one of the greatest actors of our time. [Edited 1/12/18 21:37pm]


DeNiro branched out after he got called out. Not even a 100% Italian so his mobster roles make no sense. DeNiro is of Irish and Italian descent on his father's side, while his mother had Dutch, English, French, and German ancestry.



"Branched out after he got called out "??? You truly don't know what you are talking about. De Niro's roles right after playing young Vito Corleone was as a white trash vet in "Taxi Driver", a Jewish movie mogul in "The Last Tycoon ", and as a Polish steelworker in "The Deer Hunter "...He's played a variety of roles from the very beginning of his career, and all throughout.
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Reply #82 posted 01/15/18 9:42am

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jjhunsecker said:

SuperFurryAnimal said: Movies and entertainment are bigger than ever, especially since there are more outlets to consume content. It's a business with billions of dollars in play (witness the impending Disney/Fox merger). And individual actors and filmmakers have a right to voice their opinions- at least for now... Ironically, the man you worship- Trump- was MADE by the media. He'd be nowhere with his stupid TV shows. The ones that convinced the rubes he was a "great businessman " ....

Movies will all go the way of something like Spotify and cable tv falls over next two years. Mainstream news is dead. Many of my friends online have more power than DeNiro over peoples political views.

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Movies will all go the way of something like Spotify and cable tv falls over next two years. Mainstream news is dead. Many of my friends online have more power than DeNiro over peoples political views.

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