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Thread started 09/12/17 8:41pm

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Miners who boasted about killing uncontacted Amazon tribe members now under investigation

Unbelieveable .......... smh sad



A few weeks ago, gold miners were overheard at a bar in Brazil talking boastfully about killing and stealing the belongings of between eight and 10 members of an uncontacted community in the Amazon.




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Reply #1 posted 09/12/17 8:53pm

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That's really sick what they did to those people.


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Reply #2 posted 09/14/17 7:29am

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I was reading about this.

There needs to be an increased authority against these miners and loggers

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Reply #3 posted 09/14/17 7:53am

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Thank u Beverly.

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Reply #4 posted 09/17/17 3:47pm

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it's an old story, my people have been dealing with it for centuries.

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Reply #5 posted 09/18/17 9:56am

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You're people?

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Reply #6 posted 09/18/17 2:56pm

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You're people?

native americans

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Reply #7 posted 09/18/17 7:20pm

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Has anyone seen the documentary currently on Netflix called 'First Contact'? It is about the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. Very interesting and informative.
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Reply #8 posted 09/18/17 7:38pm

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2elijah said:

Has anyone seen the documentary currently on Netflix called 'First Contact'? It is about the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. Very interesting and informative.

no, i try to avoid those kinds of docus, they get me really angry, especially the ones steeped in the past, nothing can be done about any of that now, why get pissed off about it.

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Reply #9 posted 09/18/17 7:41pm

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2elijah said:


Has anyone seen the documentary currently on Netflix called 'First Contact'? It is about the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. Very interesting and informative.

no, i try to avoid those kinds of docus, they get me really angry, especially the ones steeped in the past, nothing can be done about any of that now, why get pissed off about it.


It exposes and raises awareness of what these groups have to face to survive, and outside forces that threaten their survival. Same thing happened to isolated groups in Africa like the Pygmies. Very informative.
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Reply #10 posted 09/18/17 8:52pm

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2elijah said:

PeteSilas said:

no, i try to avoid those kinds of docus, they get me really angry, especially the ones steeped in the past, nothing can be done about any of that now, why get pissed off about it.

It's exposes and raises awareness of what these groups have to face to survive, and outside forces that threaten their survival. Same thing happened to isolated groups in Africa like the Pygmies. Very informative.

i know firsthand about all of it. as it is, the whole species looks to be headed to oblivion anyways.

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Reply #11 posted 09/20/17 4:23am

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2elijah said:


PeteSilas said:


no, i try to avoid those kinds of docus, they get me really angry, especially the ones steeped in the past, nothing can be done about any of that now, why get pissed off about it.



It's exposes and raises awareness of what these groups have to face to survive, and outside forces that threaten their survival. Same thing happened to isolated groups in Africa like the Pygmies. Very informative.

i know firsthand about all of it. as it is, the whole species looks to be headed to oblivion anyways.


Yep, greed and the lack of compassion for the lives of many.
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Reply #12 posted 09/20/17 8:02am

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PeteSilas said:

2freaky4church1 said:

You're people?

native americans

Difference is today people have moral decency...now lets get back to 2017 here

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Reply #13 posted 09/20/17 4:20pm

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PeteSilas said:

native americans

Difference is today people have moral decency...now lets get back to 2017 here

huh? did you read the thing, it's about modern day amazons today. and if you're talking strictly americans here, i suggest you take a look at the middle east and how manifest destiny has went nowhere but overseas. other night i watched american sniper, the hero of the movie referred to iraquis as savages, i'm still trying to figure out what the fuck Eastwood was thinking when he made this movie.

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Reply #14 posted 09/21/17 12:52pm

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PeteSilas said:

paisleypark4 said:

Difference is today people have moral decency...now lets get back to 2017 here

huh? did you read the thing, it's about modern day amazons today. and if you're talking strictly americans here, i suggest you take a look at the middle east and how manifest destiny has went nowhere but overseas. other night i watched american sniper, the hero of the movie referred to iraquis as savages, i'm still trying to figure out what the fuck Eastwood was thinking when he made this movie.

I know but I was just referring to here in America with your comment. Its horrible what happened to the Native Persons. Just saying the slaying of Native people and tribes do not happen today as they did 300 plus years ago...people back then didn't give a damn if they died or not. I just feel you were being a bit rude with that comment. Of course people know that happened, but this report is not about that.

Now on the report. It is terrible, and there should be more enforecements to stop this from happeneing. Indigenous people are high risk of being killed even more because of the mining. I'm just glad today, there are actions being made (hence this report) and laws regarding that so that charges can be made against people who do these atrocities.

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Reply #15 posted 09/21/17 4:22pm

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they are indians and if you see things like i do, i see tribal peoples worldwide as being the same and they all get fucked, many by capitalism and the usa's sick ways.

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PeteSilas said:

huh? did you read the thing, it's about modern day amazons today. and if you're talking strictly americans here, i suggest you take a look at the middle east and how manifest destiny has went nowhere but overseas. other night i watched american sniper, the hero of the movie referred to iraquis as savages, i'm still trying to figure out what the fuck Eastwood was thinking when he made this movie.

I know but I was just referring to here in America with your comment. Its horrible what happened to the Native Persons. Just saying the slaying of Native people and tribes do not happen today as they did 300 plus years ago...people back then didn't give a damn if they died or not. I just feel you were being a bit rude with that comment. Of course people know that happened, but this report is not about that.

Now on the report. It is terrible, and there should be more enforecements to stop this from happeneing. Indigenous people are high risk of being killed even more because of the mining. I'm just glad today, there are actions being made (hence this report) and laws regarding that so that charges can be made against people who do these atrocities.

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Reply #16 posted 09/25/17 3:49pm

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PeteSilas said:

they are indians and if you see things like i do, i see tribal peoples worldwide as being the same and they all get fucked, many by capitalism and the usa's sick ways.

paisleypark4 said:

I know but I was just referring to here in America with your comment. Its horrible what happened to the Native Persons. Just saying the slaying of Native people and tribes do not happen today as they did 300 plus years ago...people back then didn't give a damn if they died or not. I just feel you were being a bit rude with that comment. Of course people know that happened, but this report is not about that.

Now on the report. It is terrible, and there should be more enforecements to stop this from happeneing. Indigenous people are high risk of being killed even more because of the mining. I'm just glad today, there are actions being made (hence this report) and laws regarding that so that charges can be made against people who do these atrocities.

There needs to be worldwide more representation for persons who choose to live their life upon the natural resources.

Human nature generally though, have always been out for #1 and its unfortunate that even today things like this can still happen.

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Reply #17 posted 09/25/17 6:06pm

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PeteSilas said:

they are indians and if you see things like i do, i see tribal peoples worldwide as being the same and they all get fucked, many by capitalism and the usa's sick ways.

There needs to be worldwide more representation for persons who choose to live their life upon the natural resources.

Human nature generally though, have always been out for #1 and its unfortunate that even today things like this can still happen.

that's what we see, but I can tell you that tribal peoples aren't the same. My people, Indians, are generous to a fault. I constantly have to watch myself because i get taken advantage of at least in terms of giving more than i take. I recently cut down on my social contacts because of this, if i'm with you, i'm with you all the way or as much as i can be, and when other people just aren't like that? well, why get mad about it, just cut them out. I don't like being exploited.

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Reply #18 posted 09/26/17 11:09am

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Reply #19 posted 09/27/17 5:37am

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^Makes me think of a quote from Sitting Bull: The white man knows how to make everything. But he does not know how to share."

there you go, if you read some quotes by some of the old chiefs, they really thought it was crazy how white people lived, my folks are still sorting out the fallout, with very mixed success. Mostly, they are confused and try to be more like white people than white people are, meaning, even more selfish, even more competive etc.., I've said it a million times, i'd do business with a white person before an indian, we're in a bizarre state of flux and are very unpredictable. I don't know if we ever will sort out those things before we're bred out of existence.

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NorthC said:

^Makes me think of a quote from Sitting Bull: The white man knows how to make everything. But he does not know how to share."

there you go, if you read some quotes by some of the old chiefs, they really thought it was crazy how white people lived, my folks are still sorting out the fallout, with very mixed success. Mostly, they are confused and try to be more like white people than white people are, meaning, even more selfish, even more competive etc.., I've said it a million times, i'd do business with a white person before an indian, we're in a bizarre state of flux and are very unpredictable. I don't know if we ever will sort out those things before we're bred out of existence.

i have so much love and repect foer the Native community in Minnesota. They deserve nothing but respect. I know not all Native communities are the same and have vastly different living conditions like any race of people actually.

Finding out my great grandmother was a Blackfeet Native woman even made me appreciate these people even more. In New York City I never have seen them and hardly heard of them, until I came to Minnesota.

I've seen devsitating alcoholism for many Native people in Minnesota. However also worked with (and had a five year relationship with) some who are very loving and as you said generous to a fault. It was good to see thousands stand up for the Native community against the Dakota Pipeline. Even though Trump overstated it, I felt very good to see that unity for them from all types of people.

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Reply #21 posted 09/27/17 9:47am

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And the tragic thing is that it was the lack of unity in the past that brought them down. The Blackfeet and the Sioux fought each other harder than they fought the whites. That has changed now, but whether it was Cortez in Mexico of the army in the US, colonial powers always managed to set up tribes against each other.
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NorthC said:


Makes me think of a quote from Sitting Bull: The white man knows how to make everything. But he does not know how to share."

there you go, if you read some quotes by some of the old chiefs, they really thought it was crazy how white people lived, my folks are still sorting out the fallout, with very mixed success. Mostly, they are confused and try to be more like white people than white people are, meaning, even more selfish, even more competive etc.., I've said it a million times, i'd do business with a white person before an indian, we're in a bizarre state of flux and are very unpredictable. I don't know if we ever will sort out those things before we're bred out of existence.


If you don't mind me asking, and this is not with disrespect, but which ethnic group of Native Americans are you/your family related to?
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Reply #23 posted 09/28/17 5:27am

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2elijah said:

PeteSilas said:

there you go, if you read some quotes by some of the old chiefs, they really thought it was crazy how white people lived, my folks are still sorting out the fallout, with very mixed success. Mostly, they are confused and try to be more like white people than white people are, meaning, even more selfish, even more competive etc.., I've said it a million times, i'd do business with a white person before an indian, we're in a bizarre state of flux and are very unpredictable. I don't know if we ever will sort out those things before we're bred out of existence.

If you don't mind me asking, and this is not with disrespect, but which ethnic group of Native Americans are you/your family related to? [Edited 9/28/17 4:53am]

sure, i'm athabascan, one of, if not the most spread out tribe in the us, my tribe is in alaska but we are related to the apache and navajo. strangest think after prince died, one of the posters on here mentioned that he was native alaskan and that a lot of deaths had happened in his community, i found out it's the village my people are from, a miniscule village, the population was roughly 50 when i was a child, i don't know what it is now, but he was referring to one of my cousins. Us Indians do believe everything is connected so it's affirming when those kinds of things happen.

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