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Dasein

Black Girls Viewed as "Less Innocent" than white Girls


First study focused on “adultification” of black girls shows significant bias toward girls
starting at age 5, younger than in previous research on black boys




A groundbreaking study released today by Georgetown Law’s Center on Poverty and Inequality finds
that adults view black girls as less innocent and more adult-like than their white peers, especially in
the age range of 5-14.

The study, detailed in the new report, Girlhood Interrupted: The... Childhood, is
the first of its kind to focus on girls, and builds on previous research on adult perceptions of black
boys. That includes a 2014 study led by Phillip Goff that found that, beginning at age 10, black boys
are more likely to be viewed as older and guilty of suspected crimes than white peers.

girlhood-interrupted-cover_1.jpg

Authors of the new Georgetown Law report adapted the
scale of childhood innocence developed by Goff and
colleagues to include items associated with stereotypes of
black women and girls. They then applied the scale to a new
survey on adult perceptions of girls. The findings showed
significant bias toward black girls starting at age 5.

“What we found is that adults see black girls as less
innocent and less in need of protection as white girls of the
same age,” said Rebecca Epstein, lead author of the report
and executive director of the Center on Poverty and
Inequality at the Georgetown University Law Center
.

“This new evidence of what we call the ‘adultification’ of
black girls may help explain why black girls in America are
disciplined much more often and more severely than white
girls – across our schools and in our juvenile justice
system,” said Epstein.

The new report reveals that adults think:

-Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.

-Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.

-Black girls need less protection than white girls.

-Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.

-Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.

-Black girls are more independent than white girls.

-Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.

-Black girls know more about sex than white girls.

The study applied statistical analysis to a survey of 325 adults from a variety of racial and ethnic
backgrounds and educational levels across the United States. Across the four age brackets
examined, the most significant differences in adult perceptions were found in relation to girls in
mid-childhood (ages 5-9) and early adolescence (10-14), continuing to a lesser degree in the 15 to
19-year-old group. No statistically significant differences were found in the 0-4 age group.

Biases revealed by the study may shed new light on why black girls are consistently disciplined
more harshly than white girls. The report authors point out that educators, school-based police
officers and officials across the juvenile justice system often have significant discretion in their
decision making, including for minor, subjective infractions such as dress code violations,
disobedience and disruptive behavior.

Until now, few scholars have thoroughly investigated why black girls are subjected to differential
disciplinary treatment, such as:

-Black girls are five times more likely to be suspended as white girls, and twice as likely to be
suspended as white boys.


-Black girls make up just under 16% of the female school population, but account for 28% of referrals to law enforcement, and 37% of arrests.
White girls account for 50% the female school population, but only 34% of referrals and 30% of arrests.

-Black girls are nearly three times as likely to be referred to the juvenile justice system as white girls.

-Black girls are 20% more likely to be charged with a crime than white girls.

-Black girls are 20% more likely than white girls to be detained.

-Black girls are less likely to benefit from prosecutorial discretion.

One study found that prosecutors dismissed only 30% of cases against black girls, while dismissing
70% of cases against white girls.

The report authors call for further study into the adultification of black girls and its possible causal
connections to negative outcomes across public systems, including education, juvenile justice and
child welfare. They also recommend providing teachers and law enforcement officials with training
on adultification to help counteract the negative consequences of this bias against black girls.

“These findings show that pervasive stereotypes of black women as hypersexualized and combative
are reaching into our schools and playgrounds and helping rob black girls of the protections other
children enjoy,” said report coauthor Jamilia Blake, an associate professor at Texas A&M University.
“We urge legislators, advocates and policymakers to examine the disparities that exist for black
girls in the education and juvenile justice systems and to pursue reforms that preserve childhood for
all.”

Download the report here:

Girlhood Interrupted: The... Childhood

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Reply #1 posted 06/30/17 10:48am

Dasein

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Reply #2 posted 06/30/17 11:14am

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Systematic B.S.

The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.
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Reply #3 posted 06/30/17 12:25pm

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Note the "innocence" of race relations the last few hundred years.

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Reply #4 posted 06/30/17 5:35pm

free2bFreeda2

quote from op's post

The new report reveals that adults think:

-Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.

-Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.

-Black girls need less protection than white girls.

-Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.

-Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.

-Black girls are more independent than white girls.

-Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.

-Black girls know more about sex than white girls.

so to sum it up,

white girls seem younger than black girls of the same age.

white girls need more nurturing that black girls

white girls need more protection that black girls

white girls need to be supported less than black girls

white girls need to be comforted more than black girls

white girls are less independent that black girls

white girls know less about adult topics that black girls

white girls know less about sex than black girls

KattWilliams.png " wait, maybe we ain't talking about the same white girls.?

rolleyes

[Edited 6/30/17 17:37pm]

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Reply #5 posted 07/06/17 2:27pm

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Psht, what's new?

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Reply #6 posted 07/06/17 3:38pm

Graycap23

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paisleypark4 said:

Psht, what's new?

Nada......

The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.
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Reply #7 posted 07/07/17 11:38am

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free2bFreeda2 said:

quote from op's post

The new report reveals that adults think:

-Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.

-Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.

-Black girls need less protection than white girls.

-Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.

-Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.

-Black girls are more independent than white girls.

-Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.

-Black girls know more about sex than white girls.

so to sum it up,

white girls seem younger than black girls of the same age.

white girls need more nurturing that black girls

white girls need more protection that black girls

white girls need to be supported less than black girls

white girls need to be comforted more than black girls

white girls are less independent that black girls

white girls know less about adult topics that black girls

white girls know less about sex than black girls

KattWilliams.png " wait, maybe we ain't talking about the same white girls.?

rolleyes

[Edited 6/30/17 17:37pm]

so basically

white girls are more dependent then black girls, thin skinned, naive, gullable, and vulnerable. I am white and I don't find this a compliment.

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Reply #8 posted 07/07/17 11:44am

Dasein

Deadflow3r said:

free2bFreeda2 said:

quote from op's post

so to sum it up,

white girls seem younger than black girls of the same age.

white girls need more nurturing that black girls

white girls need more protection that black girls

white girls need to be supported less than black girls

white girls need to be comforted more than black girls

white girls are less independent that black girls

white girls know less about adult topics that black girls

white girls know less about sex than black girls

KattWilliams.png " wait, maybe we ain't talking about the same white girls.?

rolleyes

[Edited 6/30/17 17:37pm]

so basically

white girls are more dependent then black girls, thin skinned, naive, gullable, and vulnerable. I am white and I don't find this a compliment.


No, young white girls are treated as children and protected by society due to that treatment so that
their childhood is not interrupted, much unlike their Black counter-parts.

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Dasein said:

Deadflow3r said:

so basically

white girls are more dependent then black girls, thin skinned, naive, gullable, and vulnerable. I am white and I don't find this a compliment.


No, young white girls are treated as children and protected by society due to that treatment so that
their childhood is not interrupted, much unlike their Black counter-parts.


I don't see these points to be at odds.

Somewhat related, besides the implications of these findings in the domain of corrections, these idiot assumptions also have a deleterious effect on preventive supports for both white and black girls in such areas as healthcare. As an example, my partner is a psychologist, whose professional focus is eating disorders in girls and women. Because the thinking is that white girls are childish, fragile and basic, treatment histories for them tend toward condescending approaches that assess their disordered eating as an air-headed attempt at simply wanting to be cute and thin. At the same time, the unfounded assumption that their black peers somehow enjoy a certain cultural protection against such Beckery pans out into underdiagnoses, misdiagnoses, or treatments that also place upon them the burden to recover from a pathologized racial identity. (e.g. "Anorexic black girls just wants to be white.") This phenomenon fails women of both -- and other -- groups and sidesteps an IDing of what is likely the overriding culprit: a continued stratification of people into stupid, arbitrary groups as informed by the myopia of nondiverse authorities.

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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Dasein

Lammastide said:

Dasein said:


No, young white girls are treated as children and protected by society due to that treatment so that
their childhood is not interrupted, much unlike their Black counter-parts.


I don't see these points to be at odds.

Somewhat related, besides the punitive implications of these findings, these idiot assumptions also have a deleterious effect on preventive supports for both white and black girls. As an example, my partner is a psychologist, whose professional focus is eating disorders in girls and women. Because the thinking is that white girls are childish, fragile and basic, treatment histories for them tend toward condescending approaches that assess their disordered eating as an air-headed attempt at simply wanting to be cute and thin. At the same time, the unfounded assumption that their black peers somehow enjoy a certain cultural protection against such Beckery pans out into underdiagnoses, misdiagnoses, or treatments that also place upon them the burden to recover from a pathologized racial identity. (e.g. "Anorexic black girls just wants to be white.") This phenomenon fails women of both -- and other -- groups and sidesteps an IDing of what is likely the overriding culprit: a continued stratification of people into stupid, arbitrary groups as informed by the myopia of nondiverse authorities.

[Edited 7/8/17 7:06am]


In the context of treating eating disorders in white girls, even if the approach is condescending
due to the perception that they are childish, fragile, and basic - due for whatever reason - comes the
perception that they are innocent and not adult-like with a desire to protect their innocence during
the particularities and complexities of childhood. Yet, I wish we treated Black girls with the same kind
of patronizing as it is accompanied with keeping childhood innocence intact!

The reason why I said "no" to Deadflowers was because s/he used qualities such as "thin skinned,
naive, gullable {sic}, and vulnerable" to describe white girls in response to the report which never
makes that claim about how white girls are perceived by the public system. It was as if s/he was say-
ing, "Oh, so society treats Black girls like they're grown, savvy, and mature so white girls then are
naive, gullible, and susceptible" and that's not what is being said in the report at all.


[Edited 7/8/17 10:33am]

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Of course they view black girls as less innocent because they push that "Strong, adult" image on them at a young age. Generally speaking, there was a study that showed that black children as young as THREE are since as grown. Again it doesn't faze me and I have witness stuff like this.

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Dasein said:

Lammastide said:


I don't see these points to be at odds.

Somewhat related, besides the punitive implications of these findings, these idiot assumptions also have a deleterious effect on preventive supports for both white and black girls. As an example, my partner is a psychologist, whose professional focus is eating disorders in girls and women. Because the thinking is that white girls are childish, fragile and basic, treatment histories for them tend toward condescending approaches that assess their disordered eating as an air-headed attempt at simply wanting to be cute and thin. At the same time, the unfounded assumption that their black peers somehow enjoy a certain cultural protection against such Beckery pans out into underdiagnoses, misdiagnoses, or treatments that also place upon them the burden to recover from a pathologized racial identity. (e.g. "Anorexic black girls just wants to be white.") This phenomenon fails women of both -- and other -- groups and sidesteps an IDing of what is likely the overriding culprit: a continued stratification of people into stupid, arbitrary groups as informed by the myopia of nondiverse authorities.

[Edited 7/8/17 7:06am]


In the context of treating eating disorders in white girls, even if the approach is condescending
due to the perception that they are childish, fragile, and basic - due for whatever reason - comes the
perception that they are innocent and not adult-like with a desire to protect their innocence during
the particularities and complexities of childhood. Yet, I wish we treated Black girls with the same kind
of patronizing as it is accompanied with keeping childhood innocence intact!

The reason why I said "no" to Deadflowers was because s/he used qualities such as "thin skinned,
naive, gullable {sic}, and vulnerable" to describe white girls in response to the report which never
makes that claim about how white girls are perceived by the public system. It was as if s/he was say-
ing, "Oh, so society treats Black girls like they're grown, savvy, and mature so white girls then are
naive, gullible, and susceptible" and that's not what is being said in the report at all.


[Edited 7/8/17 10:33am]

Society makes it clear that black children aren't "children", they're mini adults by age three. And yes it's very clear contrast between black girls and white girls. They push that "Strong, sassy, and grown" stereotype on these young girls and that shit makes me sick.

There was a post on Facebook I read from this one woman who went to a historically black hotel, There's an older white man that runs the hotel and had vintage racist images of naked black children, the woman confronted him about it and he had fucking nerve to say that shit is cute and when that person told him off about how demeaning the pictures were he gonna flip the script and say "We should remember this stuff right?" Bitch you didn't even know this shit was racist. The hypersexualization of black children is harmful.

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