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Minnesota Officer Acquitted in Philando Castile Case

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minnesota-officer-acquitted-in-motorist-shooting/ar-BBCKuZX

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — A Minnesota police officer has been acquitted of manslaughter in the fatal shooting of a black motorist.

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Jeronimo (yeh-RON'-ih-moh) Yanez was also cleared Friday of two lesser charges in the July traffic stop in a St. Paul suburb. Yanez shot Philando Castile five times just seconds after Castile informed him he was carrying a gun.

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Yanez testified that Castile was pulling his gun out of his pocket despite his commands not to do so. The defense also argued Castile was high on marijuana and said that affected his actions.

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Castile had a permit for the weapon. Prosecutors questioned whether Yanez ever saw the gun. They argued that the officer overreacted and that Castile was not a threat.

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The case garnered immediate attention because Castile's girlfriend streamed the aftermath live on Facebook.

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Reply #1 posted 06/16/17 1:40pm

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/philando-castile-trial-verdict/index.html

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Officer who shot Philando Castile found not guilty

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St. Paul, Minnesota (CNN)Jeronimo Yanez, the Minnesota police officer who fatally shot Philando Castile during a traffic stop last year, was found not guilty of second-degree manslaughter Friday.

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He also was acquitted of two counts of intentional discharge of firearm that endangers safety.
Castile's death garnered widespread attention after his girlfriend broadcast the shooting's aftermath on Facebook Live.
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Several members of the Castile family screamed profanities and cried after the verdicts were announced, despite warnings from the judge that everyone in the courtroom should remain composed.
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"Let me go!" yelled Castile's mother, Valerie.
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The families of Castile and Yanez were escorted out of separate courtroom exits. At least 13 officers were present in the small courtroom when the verdicts were read.

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Reply #2 posted 06/16/17 1:41pm

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No surprise here
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Reply #3 posted 06/16/17 1:51pm

Musicslave

Does a four year old life matter? I guess the safety of that four year old girl wasn't endangered in their eyes.

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Reply #4 posted 06/16/17 2:05pm

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jjhunsecker said:

No surprise here

Yep what else is new. No surprise, but typical.
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Reply #5 posted 06/16/17 9:36pm

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And it's bullshit like this that continues the hatred of bad cops and all the good cops will continue to suffer because silence is more deadly than spealing up. The hatred will soon catch up from all corners soon. Everybody is racist due to ignorance and lack of truth whether you know you're reacting racist or not it's being prejudice. Just because I'm a black person doesn't mean I want to rob and sell drugs or kill people. Just because I'm latino doesn't mean I am a drug lord selling cocaine and that I'm a homosexual or bisexual. Just because I'm asian don't mean I eat all animals and pests, love being call sluts, and big teeth weird looking humans. Just because I'm european doesn't mean I'm a high skin head looking to rape and murder all white american women. Matter of fact every race I just name have been accussed of rape falsely by a evil white woman which is sad. The good hearted caucasian women suffer the most especially if they don't have blue eyes. It's actually GREAT hearted white americans out here that understand that a few bad bunch can make everyone look bad. For it to be 2017 and Smokie Robinson and others are saying the only thing that changed is social media bringing to light what they have been saying is crazy. I had a great hearted white friend WHO WAS A DAMN COP himself get killed by his racist partner because he married a black woman. They let that bitch off stating bipolar mental issues. I watched his parents, 2 sons, wife, and sisters cry.

This post not up for debate because I'm not up for debating TRUTH. Until everybody start helping and informing each other out of love hatred will win and be the end of the human race. Let me tell you this, history itself have shown that when people get tired of being afraid uncontrollable violence and death happens to the group of bully's starting with the people within their circle. If these bad cops and government officials continue along with lying congress men/women continue to get a blind eye turned to them Donald Trump will be the easiest turmoil they ever experienced. I'm tired of innocent people dying and because they are not your race or complexion or fit the box you put them in they deserve die. I'm not with any organization because they all knowingly or unaware protect child abuse, lying men and women with domestic issues, and animals that kill infants. PETA is one of the organizations that need to fix or seperate themselves from fools that let their animals call their infants. Feminist, is another that need to fix their community club or seperate themselves from abusive lying women. It's not ok to ruin a man life who never was bad or abusive towards you because he wants to get away from your crazy abusive ass. If it wasn't for homosexual women and suffering mothers coming out saying "There are women who lie about being raped, abused, or being pregnant out there for money or to just ruin the guy life." Where are the feminist marches when a man is found not guilty of rape or abuse? Where are you all when a girl come out and say I lied about being raped or abused for money or when a mother have to bury her son because of a lie told by a woman? And miss me with the you're disrepectful towards women dialouge. I've watched parents lose their children to a lie and a group of feminists march outside these people homes and say all kinds of hurtful things but when the person that they was marching about get found guilty of lying they rarely apologize to the suffering family. But what get next to me is the REAL victims continue to suffer and are told they are liars or sluts male or female. How about as a human race we work towards being just and fair and leave the judging to the heavenly father that made our souls. Religion that's not worldly created is not the reason for the mess humans do. Worldly religion created by the human race created this racist judgemental good and evil mess. Real religion is very simple, do the right thing and be just and fair to everyone including yourself. I didn't even pass a offering plate for that. All this they jews, hebrews, muslims, christians, atheist, jehovah witness, catholic, and etc is nonsense and no better than racism.

Y'all can hate me for my above post. But until people start using love and humbleness this earth will be full of hatred and violence. Humans hurt each other and blame everything from Gods to innocent other humans. I don't care about my grammar is or personal feelings being hurt with the truth. As for the police who is out here watching their co-workers stick their fingers up women vagina or even rape the women they pull over or force to give oral sex is just as sick as the police officer doing the bad act, the police officer that's watching their co-worker kill innocent minorities from the ages 3months old to 80 yrs old are just as sick as them, police officers watching their co-workers plant stuff on innocent people are just as sick as them. And don't deserve the title a good cop, turn these evil hiding behind the badge people in and stop stucking up for them. I don't care if the cop is white, black, spanish, muslim, asian, italian, european, indian, bad and evil is what it is no matter the person complexion or race. Stand up and put the right people in jail and removed from being unworthy police officers. It's not ALWAYS the poverty low class citizen fault. It's honest people that's poor trying to live a healthy safe life. The thing is the real murderers and bad people are let free in there to roam around. The police force need to be stripped down and taught about the districts they are policing and learn the neighborhoods and people instead of using a damn video or documentary to train officers. Being a police officer is hard but letting the bad cops do what they want is what make the job harder than it should be and the bad cops don't get killed the good silent cop get killed because of the bad cops evil actions.

Fuck it, until it hits home, nobody really going to give a fuck. My prayers to all the kids and innocent victims killed by bad evil cops or raped by them.

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Reply #6 posted 06/17/17 9:55am

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Black life is cheap. Cosby on the other hand is rich.

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Reply #7 posted 06/17/17 11:55am

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Every cop is Jesse Lee Peterson.

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Reply #8 posted 06/17/17 2:11pm

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Of course, he is acquitted, did we expect anything else? sad

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/17 3:05pm

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Purplepenny sadly no, but when the next cop/cops get killed or the next victim get innocently killed like Philando mom said we going to see this again. Cops killing minorities has become a TV series live stream. But this is the correct generation, the system won't help, we'll help ourselves. We are not begging for what's a human right, we are taking what is ours otherwise history shows they will kill you. So the only choice is get your human right or die trying because the cops going to kill us anyway. When a gang of cops start dying then attention will be brought towards the dead cops but the attention will be taken. Like I said it's 2017 and you would swear with the news going on it's the 1700's again. Then we fat fuks on the jesse lee thread talking black community mentality. GTFOH!

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Reply #10 posted 06/18/17 12:02am

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After seeing the daily show video I take it all back.


[Edited 6/24/17 6:38am]

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Reply #11 posted 06/18/17 4:13am

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QueenofCardboard said:


After seeing the video, I have to agree with the jury.

It was not murder.

It was temporary insanity,

possibly caused by PTSD.

The cop had clearly snapped.

If the prosecutor had charged him with manslaughter or some lesser charge the jury would have been more likely to return a guilty verdict.

It is disappointing, but not a surprise.

I think that cop should be locked up in a mental hospital.


Yeah, but he is just another cop that got away with killing another innocent Black man. Wtf is wrong with these jurors who allow these type cops to keep getting away with it?

These type of cops are like paid assassins who go out and murder Blacks, and know they will never serve a day in jail. A Black man that kills another Black man, will go to jail. A Black man that kills a cop will go to prison, but a cop killing unarmed Black men in America or Black children, will never get convicted and serve time in prison. That's the ugly reality of the American way.
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Reply #12 posted 06/18/17 5:03am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Black life is cheap. Cosby on the other hand is rich.


Black life is not cheap, but there are those who are threatened by our existence and fear our progress in this society, so they do everything they can to demoralize us. We are still here though. Our ancestors made it through for us, so will we.
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Reply #13 posted 06/18/17 7:10am

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sad

I know it's hard to get a conviction, but if ever there appeared to be a solid case, it seems like it should have been this one. sad
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/17 10:22am

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It's cheap 2Elijah. Time to fight.

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Reply #15 posted 06/18/17 10:22am

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Queenie, shame on you. That is loopy Only territory.

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Reply #16 posted 06/18/17 10:49am

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I spoke before I knew what I was talking about.

My bad.



[Edited 6/24/17 6:39am]

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Reply #17 posted 06/18/17 10:51am

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He's a murderer.

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Reply #18 posted 06/18/17 11:01am

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2freaky4church1 said:


He's a murderer.


After seeing the video from the Daily Show I retract my earlier position.


[Edited 6/24/17 6:42am]

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #19 posted 06/18/17 2:57pm

liljojo

Queen, ................I'm actually speechless with your posts. Let me turn off my 2pac and Fred Hammond music and read your posts again. I think I missed something, if I don't post again to follow this one up that means I'm still speechless.....hell wordless.

This is not a knock on your opinion as it's kind of bittersweet. Like a hate/love thing, I hate what you said but love how you got there. Meaning I hate how you said "It's not like he woke up saying I'm going to kill black people today" because that is used for every scenario from drunk drivers that kill people to rapist that later is said to have a mental disorder. But I understand and love how you got there because it shows how terrible District Attorneys are.

And nothing about this make any of you scared? So if you get murdered or rape 2/1,000,000,000 chances is your family will get justice. Those 2 chances are the person is black and broke, or a broke minority. No wonder white women that was being abused and raped by white men pointed out black males young or old. How many black mothers going to continue to bury their INNOCENT sons? Lets take a history trip.

A 14-year-old African-American who was lynched in Mississippi in 1955. The brutality of his murder and the fact that his killers were acquitted drew attention to the long history of violent persecution of African Americans in the United States.

Now what brought about this event you ask?

Details of a 2008 interview with Carolyn Bryant, during which she disclosed that she had fabricated the most sensational part of her testimony. Tyson stated: "she said with respect to the physical assault on her, or anything menacing or sexual, that that part isn't true". She also said: "nothing that boy did could ever justify what happened to him". The 72-year-old Bryant said she could not remember the rest of the events that occurred between her and Till in the grocery store. Tyson said that Roy Bryant had been verbally abusive toward Carolyn, and "it was clear she was frightened of her husband". Bryant described Milam as "domineering and brutal and not a kind man". An editorial in The New York Times said: "This admission is a reminder of how black lives were sacrificed to white lies in places like Mississippi. It also raises anew the question of why no one was brought to justice in the most notorious racially motivated murder of the 20th century, despite an extensive investigation by the F.B.I."

Now we have things like this happening like we're living in a recycled circle spreading hatred and hurt. Teaching excuses like "Well it's not like she knew he would be lynched and beaten for her lies, it's not like he woke up and said I'm going to kill a nigger, it's not like he/she was drinking and said I'm going to hit and kill someone or kill myself, it's not like he/she meant stop they wanted sex too" depends on the person and who was killed or hurt by it.

Sooner or later war will happen because minorities are a growing number and the teachings of the past will clash with the new teachings. A blood bath will happen because as history shows and prove when people in poverty and poor begin to understand the system was never made for them they will come together and over rule the authority that has stricken them with fear. That goes for black, white, brown, yellow, red, and whatever complexion. This is bigger than just white and black, we are now stepping into Right and Wrong. It's only a matter of time before Right get tired of being treated wrong before they become numb to death.

That's why I said I have a bittersweet feelings towards your posts. I'm not calling you a terrible human for having a different opinion and view so please don't take this as a personal assault against you or your character. As for watching the video of the officer I felt his life was never in danger but that 4 yrs old baby in the back seat is he I felt scared for because that's who I thought got shot at first. And I'm going to keep it infinty real with y'all, if I had kids and they get innocently killed. They call me about no fucking marching and they better kill me too because I'm going to be on that ass with swift faster than 2016 reaper. Kids are a gift to parents no matter how much they get on your GAWD DAMN NERVS. It's nothing like coming home and watching them get excited unexpectly without wanting something lol. They just really miss you and then talk your ears off and drive you crazy again but you never have to 2nd guess their love until around 12 yrs old lol.

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Reply #20 posted 06/18/17 3:59pm

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:
No surprise here
Yep what else is new. No surprise, but typical.

Makes me sick just reading the thread title. Now traffic stop = death in America. The police are too militarized. We are going backwards.

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Reply #21 posted 06/18/17 4:20pm

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purplepoppy said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:
No surprise here

Yep what else is new. No surprise, but typical.

Makes me sick just reading the thread title. Now traffic stop = death in America. The police are too militarized. We are going backwards.


Yep. It's always some excuse not to charge them. How many more will use PTSD, feared for their lives, and mental illness, etc., so they wouldn't get convicted? This is too much of a pattern for too long. It's like legal lynching. This only sends a message thst it is ok for cops to murder Blacks, treat them disrespectful, no matter how compliant they are. PTSD or Mental illness or not, that cop should have been convicted. What was he doing on the force if he had PTSD? They apparently didn't do a good job with his psychological testing.
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Reply #22 posted 06/18/17 4:26pm

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2elijah said:

purplepoppy said:

Makes me sick just reading the thread title. Now traffic stop = death in America. The police are too militarized. We are going backwards.

Yep. It's always some excuse not to charge them. How many more will use PTSD, feared for their lives, and mental illness, etc., so they wouldn't get convicted? This is too much of a pattern for too long. It's like legal lynching. This only sends a message thst it is ok for cops to murder Blacks, treat them disrespectful, no matter how compliant they are. PTSD or Mental illness or not, that cop should have been convicted. What was he doing on the force if he had PTSD? They apparently didn't do a good job with his psychological testing.

It really is. Agree with your post 2e. This is a really dark and disturbing legal way to give permission to kill a citizen.

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Reply #23 posted 06/18/17 10:34pm

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Y'all are right and I am sorry.




[Edited 6/24/17 6:45am]

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It's interesting- so many people on here say that citizens should arm themselves. I pointed out that a Black or Latino person even with a LICENSED firearm may be in danger. This case proves it. And why are the NRA so silent about a LEGAL GUN OWNER shot down by the cops for what so many claim his "constitutional right" to bear arms ??

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Reply #25 posted 06/19/17 9:31am

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In all of the other cases of black men being shot by white cops, the black men were not in possession of a gun, and they were usually running away, or had there hands up, they weren't doing anything that could possibly be considered threatening.

As far as I am concered those were clear cut cases of murder.

This is the only case in which the victim had a gun.

This is the only case in which I believed the cop, when he said that he feared for his life.

The guy was obviously crazy scared and not thinking straight.

He should never been hired to be a cop.

I would like to see him go to prison.

They should have charged him with manslaughter.





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He was charged with second-degree manslaughter and two charges of intentional discharge of firearm that endangers safety. He was acquitted from both.

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Reply #26 posted 06/19/17 10:37am

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Let judges do it all. Get rid of juries.

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Reply #27 posted 06/19/17 11:27am

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jjhunsecker said:

It's interesting- so many people on here say that citizens should arm themselves. I pointed out that a Black or Latino person even with a LICENSED firearm may be in danger. This case proves it. And why are the NRA so silent about a LEGAL GUN OWNER shot down by the cops for what so many claim his "constitutional right" to bear arms ??

Remember you saying that. Excellent point too. Where is the outrage from others who carry legally? Crickets.

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Reply #28 posted 06/19/17 11:32am

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purplepoppy said:

jjhunsecker said:

It's interesting- so many people on here say that citizens should arm themselves. I pointed out that a Black or Latino person even with a LICENSED firearm may be in danger. This case proves it. And why are the NRA so silent about a LEGAL GUN OWNER shot down by the cops for what so many claim his "constitutional right" to bear arms ??

Remember you saying that. Excellent point too. Where is the outrage from others who carry legally? Crickets.

And I ask people to look at the case of John Rice of Long Island, NY, as an example as well. If the ethnicities in that case were reversed, Rice would have been given a medal by the NRA instead of a jail sentence (which was thankfully commuted after he served several years)

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Reply #29 posted 06/19/17 1:49pm

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purplepoppy said:

jjhunsecker said:

It's interesting- so many people on here say that citizens should arm themselves. I pointed out that a Black or Latino person even with a LICENSED firearm may be in danger. This case proves it. And why are the NRA so silent about a LEGAL GUN OWNER shot down by the cops for what so many claim his "constitutional right" to bear arms ??

Remember you saying that. Excellent point too. Where is the outrage from others who carry legally? Crickets.

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Because they tend to believe the cops account everytime and not believe the person who dies from the gun of said cop. In this case, "Philando shouldn't have reached for his gun, just like the officer said." Forget the fact that Philando told him about the gun proactively. Unfortunately, if he had not mentioned the fact that he was carrying and just gave him his license, he might still be alive.

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