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Reply #330 posted 06/17/17 8:00am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I 100% agree we must condemn this craziness from all sides or we are all truly fucked. As to the rest I'm biting my tongue and leaving it at that. There will be a more appropriate time and thread to discuss the politics. Hope the man fully recovers and gets back on the field soon.


With all due respect, there is NO more appropriate time to discuss that the rhetoric of BOTH sides is inspiring the violent extremists within them to action. This partisan blindness that infects the left AND the right might well lead to civil war and/or martial law, then it will be too late. It is time NOW for ALL of us commit to anti-violent solutions and to condemn ALL extremists regardless of their affiliations.



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Reply #331 posted 06/17/17 9:48am

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They discussed this on Maher and rightly agreed that there is much more actual violence from the right wing.

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Reply #332 posted 06/17/17 10:16am

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When you have the son of a President (Eric Trump) lashing out at Democrats - "And to me, they are not even people" (only half the country) - along with the President himself bragging that he could shoot someone and still be elected, it's pretty bad. I'm old and I've never seen this type of violent rhetoric about our own country coming from the Commander in Chief and his surrogates.

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Reply #333 posted 06/17/17 11:02am

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They discussed this on Maher and rightly agreed that there is much more actual violence from the right wing.


Well there it is then, we're all absolved. Let's just go back to business as normal of hating, blaming and labelling the "other side".


I don't know what is wrong with some of you, it's like you're so dug in on this us vs. them thing, choosing to lump the other side all together characterized by the worst of them while willfully turning a blind eye to the worst of the "allies".

And you're the one accusing ME of partisan BS?!? That's rich. And deplorable...





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Reply #334 posted 06/17/17 11:04am

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purplepoppy said:

When you have the son of a President (Eric Trump) lashing out at Democrats - "And to me, they are not even people" (only half the country) - along with the President himself bragging that he could shoot someone and still be elected, it's pretty bad. I'm old and I've never seen this type of violent rhetoric about our own country coming from the Commander in Chief and his surrogates.


Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.


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Reply #335 posted 06/17/17 11:54am

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Truth squad: one thousand hate crimes since election.

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Reply #336 posted 06/17/17 11:55am

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djThunderfunk said:

purplepoppy said:

When you have the son of a President (Eric Trump) lashing out at Democrats - "And to me, they are not even people" (only half the country) - along with the President himself bragging that he could shoot someone and still be elected, it's pretty bad. I'm old and I've never seen this type of violent rhetoric about our own country coming from the Commander in Chief and his surrogates.


Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.


I am taking break from you due to your reply #284. By far the angriest on this thread and punctuated with assault rifle cartoons. You also accused me of hating freedom and the constitution. Please refrain from answering my posts if you can.


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Reply #337 posted 06/17/17 11:56am

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said:
Lol All of a sudden when an anomaly occurs you guys want to run with it! Hope you're cool when someone runs a list and a count on the true ratio and post it each and every time a right winger goes bonkers and kills people. But I suggest we don't go there. Too late it seems. This entire thread has gone off the rails. ..instead of best wishes and a speedy recovery for the man. [Edited 6/16/17 19:06pm]

If we're honest, we can say an instance like this is "man biting dog" , compared to the usual scenario on how these things generally pan out. Just saying...


See. You can't do it. You can't resist downplaying the left-wing lunatic motivated by political hatred to shoot up the opposition.

Your position is dangerous and enabling. It's sad that you can't put your partisan bs aside in a situation like this.







[Edited 6/17/17 6:40am]



This man was a left wing lunatic. He shot innocent people, and got exactly what he deserved. But let's be honest, MOST instances like this are Right Wingers. I know you don't want to hear that ...but I'm keeping it 100% as Larry Wilmore used to say
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Reply #338 posted 06/17/17 11:58am

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djThunderfunk said:



purplepoppy said:


When you have the son of a President (Eric Trump) lashing out at Democrats - "And to me, they are not even people" (only half the country) - along with the President himself bragging that he could shoot someone and still be elected, it's pretty bad. I'm old and I've never seen this type of violent rhetoric about our own country coming from the Commander in Chief and his surrogates.




Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.



Why should we ignore the words of the POTUS and his children/ surrogates?

It's sad when you can't get beyond your partisanship...
[Edited 6/17/17 12:08pm]
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Reply #339 posted 06/17/17 11:59am

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He was mentally ill, had nothing to do with being left wing.

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Reply #340 posted 06/17/17 12:04pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He was mentally ill, had nothing to do with being left wing.


He was both, you're being dishonest, partisan and hypocritical, as usual.

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Reply #341 posted 06/17/17 12:10pm

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purplepoppy said:

djThunderfunk said:


Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.


I am taking break from you due to your reply #284. By far the angriest on this thread and punctuated with assault rifle cartoons. You also accused me of hating freedom and the constitution. Please refrain from answering my posts if you can.




Interesting that you think you can judge emotion through the printed word, but you're not very good at it. I was not and am not "angry", I'd say disgusted is more accurate.

If you're offended or triggered by the emoticons, address that with the mods. I'm not the one who included them as an option on this web site.

Your comments indicate to me that you place no value in freedom or the constitution. So, I called you on it. What's the problem?

I'll gladly ignore you, IF you do the same.




[Edited 6/17/17 12:11pm]

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Reply #342 posted 06/17/17 12:16pm

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.


Why should we ignore the words of the POTUS and his children/ surrogates? It's sad when you can't get beyond your partisanship... [Edited 6/17/17 12:08pm]


You're lying. I have never once posted a single positive thing about trump or the repbulican party EVER. You seem to be deflecting to hide or deny your own obvious "partisanship".

And clearly I did not suggest "ignoring" anything. I reflected a left-wing meme, "love trumps hate", in answer to excuses for violence commited by left wing extremists being blamed on trump's own hate.



[Edited 6/17/17 12:18pm]

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Reply #343 posted 06/17/17 12:16pm

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said:
Lol All of a sudden when an anomaly occurs you guys want to run with it! Hope you're cool when someone runs a list and a count on the true ratio and post it each and every time a right winger goes bonkers and kills people. But I suggest we don't go there. Too late it seems. This entire thread has gone off the rails. ..instead of best wishes and a speedy recovery for the man. [Edited 6/16/17 19:06pm]

If we're honest, we can say an instance like this is "man biting dog" , compared to the usual scenario on how these things generally pan out. Just saying...


See. You can't do it. You can't resist downplaying the left-wing lunatic motivated by political hatred to shoot up the opposition.

Your position is dangerous and enabling. It's sad that you can't put your partisan bs aside in a situation like this.







[Edited 6/17/17 6:40am]



I condemned his insane violence, and said he deserved to be killed. But because I don't agree with you 100% , and believe in this false equivalence, then I get attacked. Ain't that some sheeeet (a little in-joke for any fans of "The Wire" out there.
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Reply #344 posted 06/17/17 12:20pm

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


See. You can't do it. You can't resist downplaying the left-wing lunatic motivated by political hatred to shoot up the opposition.

Your position is dangerous and enabling. It's sad that you can't put your partisan bs aside in a situation like this.







[Edited 6/17/17 6:40am]

I condemned his insane violence, and said he deserved to be killed. But because I don't agree with you 100% , and believe in this false equivalence, then I get attacked. Ain't that some sheeeet (a little in-joke for any fans of "The Wire" out there.


"Attacked"?!? Sheeet, I could have sworn we were debating, as is done is this forum.

As neither you nor I have resorted to name calling at each other, I can't see the problem.




[Edited 6/17/17 12:33pm]

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Reply #345 posted 06/17/17 12:20pm

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djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


djThunderfunk said:



Yeah, well "love trumps hate". Give it a try some time.




Why should we ignore the words of the POTUS and his children/ surrogates? It's sad when you can't get beyond your partisanship... [Edited 6/17/17 12:08pm]


You're lying. I have never once posted a single positive thing about trump or the repbulican party EVER. You seem to be deflecting to hide or deny your own obvious "partisanship".

And clearly I did not suggest "ignoring" anything. I reflected a left-wing meme, "love trumps hate", in answer to excuses for violence commited by left wing extremists being blamed on trump's hate.

[Edited 6/17/17 12:17pm]



Your "message " was quite unclear then .
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Reply #346 posted 06/17/17 12:24pm

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jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:


You're lying. I have never once posted a single positive thing about trump or the repbulican party EVER. You seem to be deflecting to hide or deny your own obvious "partisanship".

And clearly I did not suggest "ignoring" anything. I reflected a left-wing meme, "love trumps hate", in answer to excuses for violence commited by left wing extremists being blamed on trump's hate.

[Edited 6/17/17 12:17pm]

Your "message " was quite unclear then .


I don't see how. If you read through my posts in this thread I have consistently tried repeatedly to make this a non-partisan issue, to push for condemnation of politically motivated violent extremist regardless of their affiliation by both the left and right.

Why some are hesitant to embrace this is baffling.

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Reply #347 posted 06/17/17 12:32pm

Factor1

jjhunsecker said:

djThunderfunk said:



jjhunsecker said:


Ugot2shakesumthin said:
Lol All of a sudden when an anomaly occurs you guys want to run with it! Hope you're cool when someone runs a list and a count on the true ratio and post it each and every time a right winger goes bonkers and kills people. But I suggest we don't go there. Too late it seems. This entire thread has gone off the rails. ..instead of best wishes and a speedy recovery for the man. [Edited 6/16/17 19:06pm]

If we're honest, we can say an instance like this is "man biting dog" , compared to the usual scenario on how these things generally pan out. Just saying...


See. You can't do it. You can't resist downplaying the left-wing lunatic motivated by political hatred to shoot up the opposition.

Your position is dangerous and enabling. It's sad that you can't put your partisan bs aside in a situation like this.







[Edited 6/17/17 6:40am]



This man was a left wing lunatic. He shot innocent people, and got exactly what he deserved. But let's be honest, MOST instances like this are Right Wingers. I know you don't want to hear that ...but I'm keeping it 100% as Larry Wilmore used to say




When is the last time a right wing activist tried to assassinate a politician because they are a member of the Democratic Party?
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Reply #348 posted 06/18/17 11:29am

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Scalise was a racist.

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Reply #349 posted 06/18/17 12:00pm

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Factor1 said:

jjhunsecker said:



This man was a left wing lunatic. He shot innocent people, and got exactly what he deserved. But let's be honest, MOST instances like this are Right Wingers. I know you don't want to hear that ...but I'm keeping it 100% as Larry Wilmore used to say




When is the last time a right wing activist tried to assassinate a politician because they are a member of the Democratic Party?


Shit.. dems get more death threats and secret service protection than anyone.
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Reply #350 posted 06/18/17 12:06pm

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Scalise was a racist.


Really? Do tell. And link.

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Reply #351 posted 06/18/17 12:23pm

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He spoke in front of a white supremicist group.

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Reply #352 posted 06/18/17 1:01pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He spoke in front of a white supremicist group.



Some reports say he spoke to another group, in another room, at an earlier time, in the same hotel as a white supremicist group had a meeting later that day. They say he spoke about slush funds to a neighborhood group and did not speak in front of the white supremicists nor was his meeting afillated with theirs in any way.

What else ya got?

(Bearing in mind, that even if you did speak to that group, is that an excuse for what this nutcase did?)










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Reply #353 posted 06/19/17 9:50am

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djThunderfunk said:

2freaky4church1 said:

He spoke in front of a white supremicist group.



Some reports say he spoke to another group, in another room, at an earlier time, in the same hotel as a white supremicist group had a meeting later that day. They say he spoke about slush funds to a neighborhood group and did not speak in front of the white supremicists nor was his meeting afillated with theirs in any way.

What else ya got?

(Bearing in mind, that even if you did speak to that group, is that an excuse for what this nutcase did?)










[Edited 6/18/17 13:37pm]

Where are your links?

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Reply #354 posted 06/19/17 9:50am

Musicslave

djThunderfunk said:

2freaky4church1 said:

He spoke in front of a white supremicist group.



Some reports say he spoke to another group, in another room, at an earlier time, in the same hotel as a white supremicist group had a meeting later that day. They say he spoke about slush funds to a neighborhood group and did not speak in front of the white supremicists nor was his meeting afillated with theirs in any way.

What else ya got?

(Bearing in mind, that even if you did speak to that group, is that an excuse for what this nutcase did?)










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Really? Why would Scalise later express regret then?

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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/steve_scalise_latest.html

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Steve Scalise: Speaking to David Duke's group 'was a mistake I regret'

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U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise said Tuesday that speaking at the conferenc...ists group founded by David Duke was "a mistake that I regret" and that he "wholeheartedly condemn" the organizations' views.

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In his latest statement in the controversy, Scalise, who is the House Majority Whip, said, "Those who know me best know I have always been passionate about helping, serving, and fighting for every family that I represent. And I will continue to do so." (Read more about the controversy.)

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The statement came a day after Scalise acknowledged speaking at the group's conference in May 2002. In an interview with NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on Monday, Scalise said he spoke as a state representative to numerous groups in opposition to a then-proposed state tax plan. But he said he didn't properly vet EURO and was not aware of its agenda. (Read the full interview.)

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Below is Scalise's statement Tuesday in full:

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"Twelve years ago, I spoke to many different Louisiana groups as a state representative, trying to build support for legislation that focused on cutting wasteful state spending, eliminating government corruption, and stopping tax hikes.

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One of the many groups that I spoke to regarding this critical legislation was a group whose views I wholeheartedly condemn. It was a mistake I regret, and I emphatically oppose the divisive racial and religious views groups like these hold.

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I am very disappointed that anyone would try to infer otherwise for political gain. As a Catholic, these groups hold views that are vehemently opposed to my own personal faith, and I reject that kind of hateful bigotry. Those who know me best know I have always been passionate about helping, serving, and fighting for every family that I represent. And I will continue to do so."

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Reply #355 posted 06/19/17 10:36am

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DJ, Ben Shapiro was on Morning Joe! He wasn't completely awful. He defended the speech of Ceaser, compared right wing protesters to antifa.

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Reply #356 posted 06/19/17 11:16am

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The gunner was a spouse abuser. 54 percent of mass killers are the same.

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Reply #357 posted 06/19/17 11:26am

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Musicslave said:

djThunderfunk said:



Some reports say he spoke to another group, in another room, at an earlier time, in the same hotel as a white supremicist group had a meeting later that day. They say he spoke about slush funds to a neighborhood group and did not speak in front of the white supremicists nor was his meeting afillated with theirs in any way.

What else ya got?

(Bearing in mind, that even if you did speak to that group, is that an excuse for what this nutcase did?)










[Edited 6/18/17 13:37pm]

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Really? Why would Scalise later express regret then?

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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/12/steve_scalise_latest.html

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Steve Scalise: Speaking to David Duke's group 'was a mistake I regret'

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U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise said Tuesday that speaking at the conferenc...ists group founded by David Duke was "a mistake that I regret" and that he "wholeheartedly condemn" the organizations' views.

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In his latest statement in the controversy, Scalise, who is the House Majority Whip, said, "Those who know me best know I have always been passionate about helping, serving, and fighting for every family that I represent. And I will continue to do so." (Read more about the controversy.)

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The statement came a day after Scalise acknowledged speaking at the group's conference in May 2002. In an interview with NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on Monday, Scalise said he spoke as a state representative to numerous groups in opposition to a then-proposed state tax plan. But he said he didn't properly vet EURO and was not aware of its agenda. (Read the full interview.)

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Below is Scalise's statement Tuesday in full:

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"Twelve years ago, I spoke to many different Louisiana groups as a state representative, trying to build support for legislation that focused on cutting wasteful state spending, eliminating government corruption, and stopping tax hikes.

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One of the many groups that I spoke to regarding this critical legislation was a group whose views I wholeheartedly condemn. It was a mistake I regret, and I emphatically oppose the divisive racial and religious views groups like these hold.

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I am very disappointed that anyone would try to infer otherwise for political gain. As a Catholic, these groups hold views that are vehemently opposed to my own personal faith, and I reject that kind of hateful bigotry. Those who know me best know I have always been passionate about helping, serving, and fighting for every family that I represent. And I will continue to do so."

it's the classic Fox/O'Reilly technique : "Some say"...and then you put your own spin out there

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Reply #358 posted 06/19/17 11:28am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The gunner was a spouse abuser. 54 percent of mass killers are the same.

A guy with a history of domestic violence...yet STILL able to purchase weapons.

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Reply #359 posted 06/19/17 11:35am

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Good debate on Thom Hartmann. Nothing in the 2nd Amendment that says guns are for fighting the government. The founders were silent on that issue. Gun rights apply to militias which George Washington hated.

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