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Reply #60 posted 06/11/17 3:06pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Again, you are making the argument that killing innocent people is justifiable. That is what ISIS does. What your saying is truly sociopathic.


Again, you fail to admit the TARGETING of innocent civilians by terrorists is not the same as the good guys targeting terrorists who happen to be using civilians as shields.

This is what terrorist sympathizers do, criticize the good guys for trying to stop the bad guys. Pathetic.

Get off your high horse boy, there are not good guys here, just bad guys and worse guys. Good guys? don't make me laugh.

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Reply #61 posted 06/11/17 3:13pm

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NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said:


The topic is airstrikes in Syria, not the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Don't play dumb, you can read the title just as well as anyone.

As for your silly little comment about IS, it's roots are Al Qaeda. And it was defeated by a US surge in 2008.

It was the civil war in Syria, around 2011, when IS rose again. So get your facts straight please.

Now, back on topic.

Didn't you say you studied history? If so, then you would realize that it was the US support of the Mujjahedeen who were fighting the Russkis in Afghanistan which led to the rise of Al Qaeda. It was the American invasion of Iraq and the American military presence in Saudi Arabia which led to Osama Bin Laden becoming a radical (no, not a radical liberal rolleyes) So... I'm sory to say, but your country is at the root of all this whether you like it or not...

That monster called the US is guilty of many evil things in this world,the most criminal nation in the history of humankind. They are guilty,not their people (well in someway they are) but their governments. They have given us great music and entertainment , though.

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Reply #62 posted 06/11/17 4:18pm

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214 said:

NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said: Didn't you say you studied history? If so, then you would realize that it was the US support of the Mujjahedeen who were fighting the Russkis in Afghanistan which led to the rise of Al Qaeda. It was the American invasion of Iraq and the American military presence in Saudi Arabia which led to Osama Bin Laden becoming a radical (no, not a radical liberal rolleyes) So... I'm sory to say, but your country is at the root of all this whether you like it or not...

That monster called the US is guilty of many evil things in this world,the most criminal nation in the history of humankind. They are guilty,not their people (well in someway they are) but their governments. They have given us great music and entertainment , though.


We're pretty good at foreign aid, too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/...oreign_aid

We were HERE, where were you?
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Reply #63 posted 06/11/17 6:14pm

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djThunderfunk said:

214 said:

That monster called the US is guilty of many evil things in this world,the most criminal nation in the history of humankind. They are guilty,not their people (well in someway they are) but their governments. They have given us great music and entertainment , though.


We're pretty good at foreign aid, too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/...oreign_aid

I give you that.

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Reply #64 posted 06/11/17 8:11pm

nd33

Pokeno4Money said:



NorthC said:


We don't need to get back on topuc because we never left the topic. If it wasn't for the American invasion of Iraq, there wouldn't even BE an IS! IS is a direct result of the chaos that the Americans left.


The topic is airstrikes in Syria, not the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Don't play dumb, you can read the title just as well as anyone.

As for your silly little comment about IS, it's roots are Al Qaeda. And it was defeated by a US surge in 2008.

It was the civil war in Syria, around 2011, when IS rose again. So get your facts straight please.

Now, back on topic.



I think you're being a little disingenuous. I don't think that you believe that the IDEOLOGY of Al Qaeda was defeated in an air strike, because, as you say, is has lived on to be renamed (possibly by the CIA) ISIS or IS. That which continues is not defeated.
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Reply #65 posted 06/11/17 8:19pm

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maplenpg said:




Silvertongue7 said:



Explain what the last three that you mentioned achieved... And not that you'll understand, but there were only losers in the last war that my country was involved in.




He can't. He's not interested in history, only the present and the future.




Well that's quite a dumb thing to say. I brought them up, so obviously I know about them. wacky

Nam - Communists in North Vietnam signed the peace treaty, thanks in large part to US air strikes.

Gulf War - Freed Kuwait from Iraq invasion, thanks in large part to US air strikes

Saddam/2003 Iraq invasion - Airstrikes paved the way for the ousting of his deadly regime

Don't even bother trying to turn this into a "what was accomplished by winning those wars" debate.

You asked me what was achieved by military strikes in those three wars, and I answered you.



But you are not battling a state, you are battling an ideology, spread amongst citizenry around the world. Bombs and bullets can defeat an army, but not an ideology.

This requires a complete rethink, by the US government (and others). So far, there appears to be no one capable of doing that, in the right positions of power.
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