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RUSSIA / TRUMP INVESTIGATION(S)

(a fresh thread! - let's try to please stay on topic as this story unfolds and have a civil discourse about the subject)

The saga continues....

Three of our Washington reporters found a major reason for the alarm bells about Russian election meddling. Months before the election, officials told them, U.S. agents learned that top Russian officials were strategizing about how to exert influence over Donald Trump through his advisers. The effort focused on Paul Manafort, above, who was Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman at the time, and Michael Flynn.

Mr. Flynn is coming under sharply increased pressure to provide lawmakers with documents related to his Russia contacts.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/us/politics/russia-trump-manafort-flynn.html?emc=edit_ne_20170524&nl=evening-briefing&nlid=48279265&te=1&_r=0

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Reply #1 posted 05/24/17 6:08pm

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This is getting good...hopefully this will lead to an impeachment.
[Edited 5/24/17 18:27pm]
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Reply #2 posted 05/24/17 9:09pm

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For context.

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html

Apparently, if it's even true, this kinda thing is normal and acceptable, no?
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/17 4:37am

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nd33 said:

For context. The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html Apparently, if it's even true, this kinda thing is normal and acceptable, no?


Nope - not normal and not acceptable.

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Reply #4 posted 05/25/17 7:21am

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nd33 said:

For context. The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries http://www.latimes.com/na...story.html Apparently, if it's even true, this kinda thing is normal and acceptable, no?


Of course it's normal, plenty of other countries do it too.

It's not acceptable, but neither is a lot of other underhanded stuff that is done to presidential campaigns such as releasing an 11-year-old video right before an election. In nearly every election one or more sides plays dirty, it's always been that way.

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Reply #5 posted 05/25/17 4:34pm

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here comes the son-in-law:


Jared Kushner now a focus in Russia investigation


Investigators are focusing on a series of meetings held by Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and an influential White House adviser, as part of their probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and related matters, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Kushner, who held meetings in December with the Russian ambassador and a banker from Moscow, is being investigated because of the extent and nature of his interactions with the Russians, the people said.

The Washington Post reported last week that a senior White House official close to the president was a significant focus of the high-stakes investigation, though it did not name Kushner.



https://www.washingtonpos...c5f68dcf9e

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Reply #6 posted 05/25/17 5:11pm

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This is great! Maybe this will be included in the investigation?

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Reply #7 posted 05/25/17 5:33pm

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lol

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Reply #8 posted 05/26/17 4:41am

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From NPR:

Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care



"Please tell my constituents, my neighbors, why they should care — and not just in Washington, D.C., but in Washington state and Texas and Connecticut and points in between — and why should they care, and why do you care, sir?"

The question was posed by Washington Democrat Denny Heck, and it provoked a high-minded response:



Here's what Brennan said in full:

"Well, for the last 241 years, the nation and the citizens have cherished the freedom and liberty upon which this country was founded upon. Many brave Americans have lost their lives to protect that freedom and liberty and lost their lives to protect the freedom and liberties of other peoples around the world. Our ability to choose our elected leaders, as we see fit, is, I believe, an inalienable right that we must protect with all of the resources and authority and power.

"And the fact that the Russians tried to influence resources and authority and power, and the fact that the Russians tried to influence that election so that the will of the American people was not going to be realized by that election, I find outrageous and something that we need to, with every last ounce of devotion to this country, resist and try to act to prevent further instances of that. And so, therefore, I believe, this is something that's critically important to every American. Certainly, it's very important for me, for my children and grandchildren to make sure that never again will a foreign country try to influence and interfere in the foundation stone of this country, which is electing our democratic leaders."



^ this is why tampering in an election should not be normal or acceptable.

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Reply #9 posted 05/26/17 4:48am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

From NPR:


Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care





"Please tell my constituents, my neighbors, why they should care — and not just in Washington, D.C., but in Washington state and Texas and Connecticut and points in between — and why should they care, and why do you care, sir?"


The question was posed by Washington Democrat Denny Heck, and it provoked a high-minded response:





Here's what Brennan said in full:




"Well, for the last 241 years, the nation and the citizens have cherished the freedom and liberty upon which this country was founded upon. Many brave Americans have lost their lives to protect that freedom and liberty and lost their lives to protect the freedom and liberties of other peoples around the world. Our ability to choose our elected leaders, as we see fit, is, I believe, an inalienable right that we must protect with all of the resources and authority and power.


"And the fact that the Russians tried to influence resources and authority and power, and the fact that the Russians tried to influence that election so that the will of the American people was not going to be realized by that election, I find outrageous and something that we need to, with every last ounce of devotion to this country, resist and try to act to prevent further instances of that. And so, therefore, I believe, this is something that's critically important to every American. Certainly, it's very important for me, for my children and grandchildren to make sure that never again will a foreign country try to influence and interfere in the foundation stone of this country, which is electing our democratic leaders."






^ this is why tampering in an election should not be normal or acceptable.


Absolutely. I believe that trump's divisive message to Americans, during the campaign, was easy bait for the Russians, to find a way to manipulate their influence into and during the election.
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Reply #10 posted 05/26/17 4:56am

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

From NPR:

Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care



"Please tell my constituents, my neighbors, why they should care — and not just in Washington, D.C., but in Washington state and Texas and Connecticut and points in between — and why should they care, and why do you care, sir?"

The question was posed by Washington Democrat Denny Heck, and it provoked a high-minded response:



Here's what Brennan said in full:



^ this is why tampering in an election should not be normal or acceptable.

Absolutely. I believe that trump's divisive message to Americans, during the campaign, was easy bait for the Russians, to find a way to manipulate their influence into and during the election. [Edited 5/26/17 4:50am]




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The Russians (Putin) pegged him from day one nod

And *this* is why Andrea Merkle is seen as the leader of the free world, not 45. I imagine those living in the Baltics are not sleeping well after that NATO speech.

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

From NPR:

Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care



"Please tell my constituents, my neighbors, why they should care — and not just in Washington, D.C., but in Washington state and Texas and Connecticut and points in between — and why should they care, and why do you care, sir?"

The question was posed by Washington Democrat Denny Heck, and it provoked a high-minded response:



Here's what Brennan said in full:



^ this is why tampering in an election should not be normal or acceptable.

Absolutely. I believe that trump's divisive message to Americans, during the campaign, was easy bait for the Russians, to find a way to manipulate their influence into and during the election. [Edited 5/26/17 4:50am]


Sessions Flynn Kushner - all forget to list meeting with Russians on their disclosure forms... coincidence? disbelief



Follow the money................

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Reply #12 posted 05/26/17 6:19am

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This is too funny, what proof does Rachel have? Nothing that we've seen or heard!

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/fbi-russia-investigation-jared-kushner/



The FBI has collected data on computer bots, programs that perform repetitive functions like searches, allegedly linked to Russia that helped target and push negative information on Hillary Clinton and positive information on Donald Trump through Facebook and other social media, the officials say.
Who's who in Trump-Russia saga
Federal investigators have been taking a closer look at the Trump campaign's data analytics operation, which was supervised by Kushner, officials say, and are examining whether Russian operatives used people associated with the campaign -- wittingly or unwittingly -- to try to help Russia's own data targeting.


Kushner has acknowledged meeting during the transition with Russia's ambassador and separately with the head of a Russian bank. According to a source familiar with what transpired, neither meeting discussed sanctions but instead focused on establishing a backchannel to Russia's president. Those meetings are of interest to the FBI.
The White House referred calls to Kushner's attorney.

^ I'll bet. wink

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Reply #14 posted 05/26/17 11:24am

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[Edited 5/26/17 11:29am]
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Reply #15 posted 05/26/17 3:13pm

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2elijah said:

-- [Edited 5/26/17 11:29am]



lol I thought maybe you had some breaking news, 2E!



So I'll just repost this pic:


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Reply #16 posted 05/26/17 4:33pm

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Maddow has been conspicuously silent of late about the Russians, I wonder why?



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Reply #17 posted 05/26/17 4:39pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:



2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said:

From NPR:


Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care





"Please tell my constituents, my neighbors, why they should care — and not just in Washington, D.C., but in Washington state and Texas and Connecticut and points in between — and why should they care, and why do you care, sir?"


The question was posed by Washington Democrat Denny Heck, and it provoked a high-minded response:





Here's what Brennan said in full:




^ this is why tampering in an election should not be normal or acceptable.



Absolutely. I believe that trump's divisive message to Americans, during the campaign, was easy bait for the Russians, to find a way to manipulate their influence into and during the election. [Edited 5/26/17 4:50am]


Sessions Flynn Kushner - all forget to list meeting with Russians on their disclosure forms... coincidence? disbelief



Follow the money.....



That's how they got Nixon , and probably how they'll get Trump and his Russkie loving buddies
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Reply #18 posted 05/26/17 4:39pm

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 5/25/17

Trump-Russia probe turns its attention to Jared Kushner: NBC News

Matt Zapotosky, who covers the Justice Department for the Washington Post, talks with Rachel Maddow about the new revelation that Donald Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is a person of interest in the FBI's Trump-Russia investigation.









SMOOTH OPERATOR

Ukrainians Say FBI Questioning Them About Paul Manafort’s Past

Members of parliament and government agencies in Kiev have been investigating Trump’s former campaign manager for years. Now, they say, the feds are getting interested.

KIEV—The Ukrainian parliamentarian Mustafa Nayyem says the FBI has come to him at last, asking about Paul Manafort, who had a long record as a political operative serving pro-Russian figures here before he became the campaign manager for ... last year.

Nayyem and other Ukrainian officials say they are not only willing to cooperate with the FBI, they have been trying to do that for years, but only recently did American law enforcement show any interest.

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Reply #19 posted 05/26/17 4:40pm

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jjhunsecker said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Sessions Flynn Kushner - all forget to list meeting with Russians on their disclosure forms... coincidence? disbelief



Follow the money................

That's how they got Nixon , and probably how they'll get Trump and his Russkie loving buddies

It's always about money. Always.

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Reply #20 posted 05/26/17 4:41pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show


THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 5/25/17



Trump-Russia probe turns its attention to Jared Kushner: NBC News


Matt Zapotosky, who covers the Justice Department for the Washington Post, talks with Rachel Maddow about the new revelation that Donald Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is a person of interest in the FBI's Trump-Russia investigation.















SMOOTH OPERATOR



Ukrainians Say FBI Questioning Them About Paul Manafort’s Past


Members of parliament and government agencies in Kiev have been investigating Trump’s former campaign manager for years. Now, they say, the feds are getting interested.



KIEV—The Ukrainian parliamentarian Mustafa Nayyem says the FBI has come to him at last, asking about Paul Manafort, who had a long record as a political operative serving pro-Russian figures here before he became the campaign manager for ... last year.


Nayyem and other Ukrainian officials say they are not only willing to cooperate with the FBI, they have been trying to do that for years, but only recently did American law enforcement show any interest.




Yeah, she's SILENT....
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Reply #21 posted 05/26/17 7:14pm

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I want this shirt!!! lol


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Reply #22 posted 05/26/17 7:26pm

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jjhunsecker said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 5/25/17

Trump-Russia probe turns its attention to Jared Kushner: NBC News

Matt Zapotosky, who covers the Justice Department for the Washington Post, talks with Rachel Maddow about the new revelation that Donald Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner is a person of interest in the FBI's Trump-Russia investigation.









SMOOTH OPERATOR

Ukrainians Say FBI Questioning Them About Paul Manafort’s Past

Members of parliament and government agencies in Kiev have been investigating Trump’s former campaign manager for years. Now, they say, the feds are getting interested.

KIEV—The Ukrainian parliamentarian Mustafa Nayyem says the FBI has come to him at last, asking about Paul Manafort, who had a long record as a political operative serving pro-Russian figures here before he became the campaign manager for ... last year.

Nayyem and other Ukrainian officials say they are not only willing to cooperate with the FBI, they have been trying to do that for years, but only recently did American law enforcement show any interest.

Yeah, she's SILENT....


She's been on top of this story from day one.

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Reply #23 posted 05/31/17 4:27pm

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Comey is ready to testify to Congress popcorn he will detail Trump's attempts to shut down the FBI's investigations (which,btw,is obstruction of justice)
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Reply #24 posted 06/01/17 7:54am

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Putin is now hinting at Russian involvement in the U.S. elections. However, he still denies that it was the Kremlin, instead stating that it might have been "patriotically minded Russians" who did the hacking. eek

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There is much more to come. popcorn

I guess telling Lester Holt that you were thinking about the Russia investigation before you fired Comey might not have been a smart thing to do.

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Reply #26 posted 06/02/17 1:22pm

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is Trump really trying to stop Comey from testifying? hmmm it's on CNN right now.That would be a bad move for him.He will look more guilty than he does right now,lol.

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is Trump really trying to stop Comey from testifying? hmmm it's on CNN right now.That would be a bad move for him.He will look more guilty than he does right now,lol.


How can he do that? On what legal grounds?

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SoulAlive said:

is Trump really trying to stop Comey from testifying? hmmm it's on CNN right now.That would be a bad move for him.He will look more guilty than he does right now,lol.


How can he do that? On what legal grounds?

Aha!

Legal experts, however, are skeptical the President could successfully invoke the privilege to muzzle Comey because Trump has already written a letter about their conversations, talked about them publicly and even tweeted about them.

In other words, they say, the President can't use the privilege as a sword in one context and a shield in another.
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Reply #29 posted 06/02/17 2:42pm

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He's such a coward lol trying to weasel himself out of this scandal.He says that he is innocent....so why is so scared of Comey testifying? What facts does he not want to be revealed?
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