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Thread started 05/17/17 1:45pm

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The impeachment of Donald Trump: how likely is it?

With all the chaos in the White House, how likely is it that Trump will be impeached? So far, theRepublicans seem to support him if only because his downfall would send the party into even bigger chaos. So I have a few questions and I am NOT trying to turn this into another anti-Trump thread. I'm an outsider looking in, in Prince's words, "I have no dog in this race", so...
How likely do you think it is that Trump will be impeached?
If so, what will happen next? President Pence? Would that be better?
How will/would this affect the Democratic Party? (If they can't gain votes from this nonsense in the next elections, they're good for nothing.)
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Reply #1 posted 05/17/17 2:54pm

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i said before off-site that i think it's very unlikely he will make it to 2020 without being impeached.

i used to think pence would be worse, but pence is an actual politician, and can largely be controlled by his party, and tends not to just make insane fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants decisions like trump does. at this point, pence would be doing a lot less damage to the credibility of the party and the country.


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Reply #2 posted 05/17/17 2:59pm

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I'd say it;s likely he gets impeached. Probably not before 2019, when the Democrats should control the House (that is the body of Congress that actually impeaches) but with this guy, who knows?

A lot of credible people on TV today have been saying his remarks to former FBI Director james Comey constitute obstruction of justice.

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Reply #3 posted 05/17/17 3:00pm

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the thing is,it's hard to say exactly *what* Trump will be impeached for.Every few days,there is a new bombshell report.Yesterday,the big story was about obstruction of justice.What will the next scandal be about? lol
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/17 3:08pm

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The Trump story is unpredictable.

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Reply #5 posted 05/17/17 3:13pm

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It's seemed inevitable since the day he took office.

I've avoided everything Trump as much as I can because I don't want what he is/does become normal to me. Sadly the media, like the waves hitting the cliffs, are eroding that "wow this is batshit crazy stuff!!!" and softening it like the smooth round stones on the river bed and making it part of nature instead of something shocking.

How do we keep that gag reflex before we start spooning his crap as comfort food?

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Reply #6 posted 05/17/17 3:41pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I'd say it;s likely he gets impeached. Probably not before 2019, when the Democrats should control the House (that is the body of Congress that actually impeaches) but with this guy, who knows?

A lot of credible people on TV today have been saying his remarks to former FBI Director james Comey constitute obstruction of justice.


I've heard some legal eagles say that the remark to Comey alone may not be enough on its own - but if you follow the timeline of events... firing Yates, Firing Baharra, forced to fire Flynn and finally firing Comey followed by this new revelation about the memos... and whatever else they may find in the course of the investigation - - if it adds up - who knows?

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Reply #7 posted 05/17/17 3:43pm

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SoulAlive said:

the thing is,it's hard to say exactly *what* Trump will be impeached for.Every few days,there is a new bombshell report.Yesterday,the big story was about obstruction of justice.What will the next scandal be about? lol


True lol If circus drama was impeachable he'd already be gone lol

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Reply #8 posted 05/17/17 3:58pm

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I have a feeling that Trump would just resign if impeachment hearings were to begin.His ego couldn't stand the idea of being impeached and removed from office.He would resign and spend the rest of his life blaming it all on Obama and the "fake news" media biggrin
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DiminutiveRocker said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'd say it;s likely he gets impeached. Probably not before 2019, when the Democrats should control the House (that is the body of Congress that actually impeaches) but with this guy, who knows?

A lot of credible people on TV today have been saying his remarks to former FBI Director james Comey constitute obstruction of justice.


I've heard some legal eagles say that the remark to Comey alone may not be enough on its own - but if you follow the timeline of events... firing Yates, Firing Baharra, forced to fire Flynn and finally firing Comey followed by this new revelation about the memos... and whatever else they may find in the course of the investigation - - if it adds up - who knows?

The only person we can trust on the forum is Only. He was correct about the outcome of all the BLM cases. I will say that I believe if no impeachable offense has happened so far that all these investigations will hopefully make Trump more careful.

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Reply #10 posted 05/17/17 4:05pm

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SoulAlive said:

I have a feeling that Trump would just resign if impeachment hearings were to begin.His ego couldn't stand the idea of being impeached and removed from office.He would resign and spend the rest of his life blaming it all on Obama and the "fake news" media biggrin

Rob Mueller investigated 9-11!! How happy was Trump with that outcome? lol

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Reply #11 posted 05/17/17 4:32pm

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cborgman said:

pence would be doing a lot less damage to the credibility of the party and the country.


Agreed.

All we are saying, is give peace pence a chance.

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Reply #12 posted 05/17/17 4:40pm

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I'd love to see there was blatant Russian involvement and we do a do-over. The entire crapfest of people who came in with him are just as crap as Trump. We need a complete do-over and get better people in there. I realize this would be unprecedented, but it's the only solution.
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Reply #13 posted 05/17/17 5:48pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I'd love to see there was blatant Russian involvement and we do a do-over. The entire crapfest of people who came in with him are just as crap as Trump. We need a complete do-over and get better people in there. I realize this would be unprecedented, but it's the only solution.

i think pence would probably chuck most of trumps people when he takes the office


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Reply #14 posted 05/17/17 7:52pm

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SoulAlive said:

I have a feeling that Trump would just resign if impeachment hearings were to begin.His ego couldn't stand the idea of being impeached and removed from office.He would resign and spend the rest of his life blaming it all on Obama and the "fake news" media biggrin

I agree that he would probably resign if he knows it is likely he could be impeached. His ego couldn't handle the embarrassment, and yes he would also blame the Clintons.
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/17 8:24pm

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take ur pick. perchance we should weed out the "fake news?"


all in all seems the smell of drumpf-trump's hair spray is becoming very toxic to the many of his followers.

one by one there abandoning his ship of foolishness.

the man ain't no politician. he's just a oily handed salesman in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Reply #16 posted 05/17/17 8:25pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


I've heard some legal eagles say that the remark to Comey alone may not be enough on its own - but if you follow the timeline of events... firing Yates, Firing Baharra, forced to fire Flynn and finally firing Comey followed by this new revelation about the memos... and whatever else they may find in the course of the investigation - - if it adds up - who knows?

The only person we can trust on the forum is Only. He was correct about the outcome of all the BLM cases. I will say that I believe if no impeachable offense has happened so far that all these investigations will hopefully make Trump more careful.

Sure, he is my usual go-to. lol lol lol

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/17 8:25pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

cborgman said:

pence would be doing a lot less damage to the credibility of the party and the country.


Agreed.

All we are saying, is give peace pence a chance.

Pence is a filthy pig.

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Reply #18 posted 05/18/17 5:49am

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13cjk13 said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Agreed.

All we are saying, is give peace pence a chance.

Pence is a filthy pig.


But yet you want Trump impeached, which means you want Pence to be president.

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Reply #19 posted 05/18/17 6:00am

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a hearing? very low

A removal: nearly zero

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Reply #20 posted 05/18/17 6:03am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I'd love to see there was blatant Russian involvement and we do a do-over. The entire crapfest of people who came in with him are just as crap as Trump. We need a complete do-over and get better people in there. I realize this would be unprecedented, but it's the only solution.

lol you wish. that can not and will not happen PERIOD. Even if it was proven that trump personally hacked the machines it would never ever lead to a re-do.

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Reply #21 posted 05/18/17 6:18am

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Pokeno4Money said:

13cjk13 said:

Pence is a filthy pig.


But yet you want Trump impeached, which means you want Pence to be president.

comfort

Yeah, 13cjk13! 5 +5 = 17!


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Reply #22 posted 05/18/17 6:20am

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Pokeno4Money said:

13cjk13 said:

Pence is a filthy pig.


But yet you want Trump impeached, which means you want Pence to be president.

comfort

I have to say that is not a logical conclusion.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Pokeno4Money said:


But yet you want Trump impeached, which means you want Pence to be president.

comfort

I have to say that is not a logical conclusion.


Thank you, Only.

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Reply #24 posted 05/18/17 6:39am

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RodeoSchro said:

I'd say it;s likely he gets impeached. Probably not before 2019, when the Democrats should control the House (that is the body of Congress that actually impeaches) but with this guy, who knows?

A lot of credible people on TV today have been saying his remarks to former FBI Director james Comey constitute obstruction of justice.


It's being reported, by some right-wing media, that comey said under oath that trump never asked him to halt any investigation. Of course this contradicts comey's memos. If true, he was either lying under oath or lying in the memos.


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Reply #25 posted 05/18/17 6:57am

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djThunderfunk said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'd say it;s likely he gets impeached. Probably not before 2019, when the Democrats should control the House (that is the body of Congress that actually impeaches) but with this guy, who knows?

A lot of credible people on TV today have been saying his remarks to former FBI Director james Comey constitute obstruction of justice.


It's being reported, by some right-wing media, that comey said under oath that trump never asked him to halt any investigation. Of course this contradicts comey's memos. If true, he was either lying under oath or lying in the memos.




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Reply #26 posted 05/18/17 7:53am

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Where is the memo.

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Trump comprimised an Israeli spy.

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Reply #28 posted 05/18/17 8:07am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Trump comprimised an Israeli spy.

then Trump owes Netanyahu an explanation. But it would not be a crime for Trump to do that.

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Reply #29 posted 05/18/17 8:30am

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RodeoSchro said:

djThunderfunk said:


It's being reported, by some right-wing media, that comey said under oath that trump never asked him to halt any investigation. Of course this contradicts comey's memos. If true, he was either lying under oath or lying in the memos.




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I found the video of the Senate hearing that is the basis for the claims (at 3hrs35min):



Senator Hirono specifically asks about the DOJ & the AG influencing FBI investigations which comey responds has not happened, for political reasons, in his experience. trump was not specifically named.

So, although the quote attributed to comey is accurate, unless the office of president is implied, it could be argued that to the senate comey is claiming specifically that the DOJ & the AG have never attempted to exert influence over the FBI and in his memo he is claiming that specifically trump has.

I can see how both sides could spin this in their favor. I guess it's a whole lotta nothin'... wink

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