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Pokeno4Money

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Did the Mother of All Bombs send the same message as Little Boy and Fat Man?



We all remember how WWII finally came to an end. The Japanese, after seeing the power of the US military with bombs dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, quickly surrendered and the war was finally over. Thousands of lives on both sides were saved because fighting finally ended.

Will MOAB lead to a similar result? Dropping the largest non-nuclear bomb in US history no doubt accomplished three things:

1) Sent a message to terrorists that the US will not continue to take a passive approach to terrorism

2) Killed at least 94 members of IS, with the count sure to rise as the bomb site continues to be assessed.

3) Destroyed tunnels and caves used by approx 600-800 IS fighters as a hideout and headquarters.

Trump promised IS would be destroyed within a short period of time. At the very least, he's taking steps to accomplish that goal.

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Reply #1 posted 04/15/17 8:24am

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We all remember how WWII finally came to an end. The Japanese, after seeing the power of the US military with bombs dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, quickly surrendered and the war was finally over. Thousands of lives on both sides were saved because fighting finally ended.

Will MOAB lead to a similar result?

No.

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Reply #2 posted 04/15/17 8:40am

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The message: We are maniacs.

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Reply #3 posted 04/15/17 8:45am

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MOAB was moved to that part of the world as soon as Trump came into power. Surprise! Trump and his team of red hats are not pussies and ready to fight pussy ISIS.

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Reply #4 posted 04/15/17 8:48am

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You just made ISIS look good.

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Reply #5 posted 04/15/17 9:10am

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MOAB was moved to that part of the world as soon as Trump came into power. Surprise! Trump and his team of red hats are not pussies and ready to fight pussy ISIS.


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Reply #6 posted 04/15/17 9:30am

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there is no debate or doubt that the use of the bombs to end the war with Japan saved lives of Japanese civilians and untold treasures of their nation.

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Reply #7 posted 04/15/17 10:44am

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MOAB was moved to that part of the world as soon as Trump came into power. Surprise! Trump and his team of red hats are not pussies and ready to fight pussy ISIS.


Actually, it was moved to Afghanistan while Obama was still prez. I don't think the decision to finally use it was all Trump's, but he likely offered his input.

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Reply #8 posted 04/15/17 11:48am

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there is no debate or doubt that the use of the bombs to end the war with Japan saved lives of Japanese civilians and untold treasures of their nation.


So killing Japanese people saved Japanese people? That's a very cynical thought... But... You may be right, an invasion of Japan by American troops (and other Allies who were no longer required for the war in Europe) would probably have led to a long and bloody fight. Who knows, WW 2 may have lasted until 1946 or 47 if this had happened. Still, the idea that a bomb saves lives makes me feel sad.
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Where did you guys get those numbers?

36 ISIS fighters were reportedly killed, not 94, and no, I don´t think that this will impress or scare them at all. If that were the case, then the first attacks under Bush would have done so.

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Reply #10 posted 04/15/17 6:15pm

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KoolEaze said:

Where did you guys get those numbers?

36 ISIS fighters were reportedly killed, not 94, and no, I don´t think that this will impress or scare them at all. If that were the case, then the first attacks under Bush would have done so.


Where did we get 94?

CNN, CBC, USATODAY, NPR, UPI, FOX, ABC, AOL, YAHOO, LATIMES ... take your pick.

This was the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used by the US, nothing Bush did comes close.

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Reply #12 posted 04/15/17 7:41pm

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Pokeno4Money said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:


MOAB was moved to that part of the world as soon as Trump came into power. Surprise! Trump and his team of red hats are not pussies and ready to fight pussy ISIS.




Actually, it was moved to Afghanistan while Obama was still prez. I don't think the decision to finally use it was all Trump's, but he likely offered his input.



January! the rumors about Trump working with high level military first year is proven true.
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Reply #13 posted 04/15/17 11:50pm

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KoolEaze said:

Where did you guys get those numbers?

36 ISIS fighters were reportedly killed, not 94, and no, I don´t think that this will impress or scare them at all. If that were the case, then the first attacks under Bush would have done so.


Where did we get 94?

CNN, CBC, USATODAY, NPR, UPI, FOX, ABC, AOL, YAHOO, LATIMES ... take your pick.

This was the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used by the US, nothing Bush did comes close.

Even at 94 dead the cost is huge - the MOAB cost around $16 million and, I believe will have little effect. Meanwhile in Syria, a homemade suicide bomb killed over 100, mostly innocent civilians fleeing Syria. The cost of that bomb was far, far less and yet has been just as effective. The MOAB has been a white elephant, not cost effective, not effective in terms of eliminating ISIS, and using 5% of the stockpile that may well be needed soon if Trump continues in this manner.

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Reply #14 posted 04/16/17 4:15am

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maplenpg said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Where did we get 94?

CNN, CBC, USATODAY, NPR, UPI, FOX, ABC, AOL, YAHOO, LATIMES ... take your pick.

This was the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used by the US, nothing Bush did comes close.

Even at 94 dead the cost is huge - the MOAB cost around $16 million and, I believe will have little effect. Meanwhile in Syria, a homemade suicide bomb killed over 100, mostly innocent civilians fleeing Syria. The cost of that bomb was far, far less and yet has been just as effective. The MOAB has been a white elephant, not cost effective, not effective in terms of eliminating ISIS, and using 5% of the stockpile that may well be needed soon if Trump continues in this manner.


Baghdad Bob, is that you? lol

We know you'll never give credit where it's obviously due, so we'll just sit back and enjoy the success. The mission resulted in at least 94 terrorist deaths (BTW much harder to kill militants than civilians), it destroyed a critical IS hideout and tunnel system, it sent a very strong message to the terrorists that is no doubt demoralizing to them, and best of all there were ZERO civilian casualties. Win-win all the way around for the US of A, and as the bomb site continues to be assessed there will likely be even more good news to come.

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Reply #15 posted 04/16/17 4:35am

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Pokeno4Money said:


Where did we get 94?

CNN, CBC, USATODAY, NPR, UPI, FOX, ABC, AOL, YAHOO, LATIMES ... take your pick.

This was the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used by the US, nothing Bush did comes close.

Even at 94 dead the cost is huge - the MOAB cost around $16 million and, I believe will have little effect. Meanwhile in Syria, a homemade suicide bomb killed over 100, mostly innocent civilians fleeing Syria. The cost of that bomb was far, far less and yet has been just as effective. The MOAB has been a white elephant, not cost effective, not effective in terms of eliminating ISIS, and using 5% of the stockpile that may well be needed soon if Trump continues in this manner.

No maple, the 100 Syrians killed in that bus were not fleeing Syria. They were fleeing rebel-held areas of Syria to get to government-held areas. The media is deliberately unclear on that point because it makes the rebels look bad. The rebels were supposed to ensure the safe passage of those people. Instead they most likely killed them, just as they have killed so many others trying to escape their clutches.

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Reply #16 posted 04/16/17 6:04am

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We all remember how WWII finally came to an end. The Japanese, after seeing the power of the US military with bombs dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, quickly surrendered and the war was finally over. Thousands of lives on both sides were saved because fighting finally ended.

Will MOAB lead to a similar result? Dropping the largest non-nuclear bomb in US history no doubt accomplished three things:

1) Sent a message to terrorists that the US will not continue to take a passive approach to terrorism

2) Killed at least 94 members of IS, with the count sure to rise as the bomb site continues to be assessed.

3) Destroyed tunnels and caves used by approx 600-800 IS fighters as a hideout and headquarters.

Trump promised IS would be destroyed within a short period of time. At the very least, he's taking steps to accomplish that goal.



Pokeno, this question being asked is almost offensive!

There is a significant difference between any implied/explicit messages carried with nuclear bombs
and the implied/explicit messages of non-nuclear bombs.

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Reply #17 posted 04/16/17 6:27am

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maplenpg said:

Even at 94 dead the cost is huge - the MOAB cost around $16 million and, I believe will have little effect. Meanwhile in Syria, a homemade suicide bomb killed over 100, mostly innocent civilians fleeing Syria. The cost of that bomb was far, far less and yet has been just as effective. The MOAB has been a white elephant, not cost effective, not effective in terms of eliminating ISIS, and using 5% of the stockpile that may well be needed soon if Trump continues in this manner.

No maple, the 100 Syrians killed in that bus were not fleeing Syria. They were fleeing rebel-held areas of Syria to get to government-held areas. The media is deliberately unclear on that point because it makes the rebels look bad. The rebels were supposed to ensure the safe passage of those people. Instead they most likely killed them, just as they have killed so many others trying to escape their clutches.

No - the media is clear, it was my mistake. Apologies. But what is not clear is who did it. I agree the rebels could have done it but why blow up 30 of their own people? I remain neutral as to who was responsible for the bus bomb but it still killed more people than the US MOAB which was my main point.

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Reply #18 posted 04/16/17 6:31am

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midnightmover said:

No maple, the 100 Syrians killed in that bus were not fleeing Syria. They were fleeing rebel-held areas of Syria to get to government-held areas. The media is deliberately unclear on that point because it makes the rebels look bad. The rebels were supposed to ensure the safe passage of those people. Instead they most likely killed them, just as they have killed so many others trying to escape their clutches.

No - the media is clear, it was my mistake. Apologies. But what is not clear is who did it. I agree the rebels could have done it but why blow up 30 of their own people? I remain neutral as to who was responsible for the bus bomb but it still killed more people than the US MOAB which was my main point.

It's in a rebel-held area. The rebels are in control of the area. One thing's for sure, if it was in a government-held area they would be blaming Assad instantly and using it to justify more bombing.

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Reply #19 posted 04/16/17 6:40am

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maplenpg said:

No - the media is clear, it was my mistake. Apologies. But what is not clear is who did it. I agree the rebels could have done it but why blow up 30 of their own people? I remain neutral as to who was responsible for the bus bomb but it still killed more people than the US MOAB which was my main point.

It's in a rebel-held area. The rebels are in control of the area. One thing's for sure, if it was in a government-held area they would be blaming Assad instantly and using it to justify more bombing.

As I said I'm neutral - either side could have done it.

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Reply #20 posted 04/16/17 8:46am

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NorthC said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

MOAB was moved to that part of the world as soon as Trump came into power. Surprise! Trump and his team of red hats are not pussies and ready to fight pussy ISIS.

Please leave planet Trump and pay a visit to planet Earth.


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Reply #22 posted 04/16/17 7:58pm

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Dasein said:


Pokeno, this question being asked is almost offensive!

There is a significant difference between any implied/explicit messages carried with nuclear bombs
and the implied/explicit messages of non-nuclear bombs.


My friend, could you please elaborate.

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Reply #23 posted 04/19/17 1:36am

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american revisionism at work. again.

the atomic bombs may have played a part in the surrender of Japan, but at least as important if not more was the invasion by the Russians in Manchuria on August 9th, when they cut through Japanese controlled territory like a hot knife through butter, at speed unseen before. another powerful enemy entering the war against them was more than they could handle, and most importantly the Japanese were now cut off from their only left natural ressources. with or without atomic bombs, they realised this was the end

but I'm sure you've never heard about this in those little sissy schools of yours.


now quick, google Manchuria soviet invasion


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Reply #24 posted 04/19/17 3:38am

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american revisionism at work. again.

the atomic bombs may have played a part in the surrender of Japan, but at least as important if not more was the invasion by the Russians in Manchuria on August 9th, when they cut through Japanese controlled territory like a hot knife through butter, at speed unseen before. another powerful enemy entering the war against them was more than they could handle, and most importantly the Japanese were now cut off from their only left natural ressources. with or without atomic bombs, they realised this was the end

but I'm sure you've never heard about this in those little sissy schools of yours.


now quick, google Manchuria soviet invasion


lol lol lol You need to study up your history!! What country did you go to school?

The A-Bombs were dropped on August 6th & 9th, 1945.

The Russians, realizing how shaken and weakened the Japanese were after those two bombings, capitalized by beginning their Manchuria offensive .... wait for it ... on August 9th, 1945.

It was akin to Mike Tyson pummelling an opponent for 2 1/2 minutes, and then having Laila Ali take his place to finish the round. Or better yet, a vulture pecking at a possum that had already been run over by a truck.

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Pokeno4Money said:

BombSquad said:

american revisionism at work. again.

the atomic bombs may have played a part in the surrender of Japan, but at least as important if not more was the invasion by the Russians in Manchuria on August 9th, when they cut through Japanese controlled territory like a hot knife through butter, at speed unseen before. another powerful enemy entering the war against them was more than they could handle, and most importantly the Japanese were now cut off from their only left natural ressources. with or without atomic bombs, they realised this was the end

but I'm sure you've never heard about this in those little sissy schools of yours.


now quick, google Manchuria soviet invasion


lol lol lol You need to study up your history!! What country did you go to school?

The A-Bombs were dropped on August 6th & 9th, 1945.

The Russians, realizing how shaken and weakened the Japanese were after those two bombings, capitalized by beginning their Manchuria offensive .... wait for it ... on August 9th, 1945.

It was akin to Mike Tyson pummelling an opponent for 2 1/2 minutes, and then having Laila Ali take his place to finish the round. Or better yet, a vulture pecking at a possum that had already been run over by a truck.



the invasion was prepared well and long before the a-bombs, you fuckin undeducated fool

unbelievable
as I said, look it up!

and even if you are so stupid and uneducated to not have known this, you should at least be aware that a military operation of that scale CAN NOT BE PREPARED AND STARTED IN TWO DAYS. now how UNBELIEVABLY stupid is that??

btw, it was the USA who asked Stalin in Jalta already months before the invasion to help them on tha japanese front. pussies couldn't handle it alone. funny, since it was only an overrun possum

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Pokeno4Money said:

It was akin to Mike Tyson pummelling an opponent for 2 1/2 minutes, and then having Laila Ali take his place to finish the round. Or better yet, a vulture pecking at a possum that had already been run over by a truck.


you mean like the USA getting involved in world war II in Europe to secure their interests, only AFTER Hitler had already come to a halt on the western front and also his eastern attack on the USSR was not going as he hoped for and freezing in winter 41?

giant pussies


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lol lol lol You need to study up your history!! What country did you go to school?

The A-Bombs were dropped on August 6th & 9th, 1945.

The Russians, realizing how shaken and weakened the Japanese were after those two bombings, capitalized by beginning their Manchuria offensive .... wait for it ... on August 9th, 1945.

It was akin to Mike Tyson pummelling an opponent for 2 1/2 minutes, and then having Laila Ali take his place to finish the round. Or better yet, a vulture pecking at a possum that had already been run over by a truck.

oh something else: if the possum was alread run over, then the a-bombs were obviosuly not of any value. just state driven TERRORISM on civilians and a "real life" test for the manhattan project

disgusting. and irrelevant for the war. you just confirmed this, dearest possum

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Reply #28 posted 04/19/17 4:09am

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it is sad how mad some people are.

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it is sad how uneducated some poeple are

and how they repeat their revisionist propaganda fed nonsense since decades to defend TERRORISM

ignorant pricks



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