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Reply #90 posted 04/10/17 9:59am

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RicoN said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


Preeclampsia



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[Edited 4/10/17 9:37am]

did you know that? other issues are heart issues, cancer (where treatment is not possible if pregnant). That is of course only an issue until about week 25...

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Reply #91 posted 04/10/17 10:38am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The public wants meat that is clean. We should get what we want. And, the animals are treated horribly. We torture the poor things. Would Only let me torture a dog or cat?

you can buy the meat you like and want and i will buy the meat i want and like...


some farms (or whatever) do treat animals poorly that is bad.

I am against most forms of torture

I would stop you from torturing a dog or cat

But, it seems to me that the meat you want and like is the cheapest meat. It seems to me that, like an ostrich, you are burying your head in the sand to the fact that the animal you are eating has had the most appalling, short, sad, desperate life. It seems to me that you would rather the animal suffered than pay an extra $1 for it in the shops. It also seems to me that refuting 2freaky's comment that the public wants clean meat means that you are happy to eat dirty meat. Finally, it seems to me that you do not care what you are doing to your body as long as it tastes good. Yes, I am making a lot of assumptions, but they are all based on your comments on this thread.

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Reply #92 posted 04/10/17 11:33am

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But, it seems to me that the meat you want and like is the cheapest meat.

Wrong..i want the 2nd cheapest... lol no really i do not go for the cheapest but someplace in the middle...

It seems to me that, like an ostrich, you are burying your head in the sand

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to the fact that the animal you are eating has had the most appalling, short, sad, desperate life.

but is is so tasty! I wish i could afford it! what some call Bob Veal! like a new born caff! So good!




It seems to me that you would rather the animal suffered than pay an extra $1 for it in the shops.

that is not what i said at all so again Wrong! (you read that in a trump voice didn't you?!)


It also seems to me that refuting 2freaky's comment that the public wants clean meat means that you are happy to eat dirty meat.


from what i have heard 2freaky likes a little dirty meat! But I think that is a different topic! But again WRONG! I want clean meat I just think the processed stuff is fine.


Finally, it seems to me that you do not care what you are doing to your body as long as it tastes good.

LOL yeah! Well no! I live my life I eat what I want (whole wheat toast) everything's cool in moderation!


Yes, I am making a lot of assumptions, but they are all based on your comments on this thread.



And they are pretty much all WRONG! (again Trump voice?)

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Reply #93 posted 04/10/17 10:02pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Tweety, go away.

Why? You got a problem with handling facts?

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Reply #94 posted 04/11/17 3:13am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

RicoN said:



my gynizzle

[Edited 4/10/17 9:37am]

did you know that? other issues are heart issues, cancer (where treatment is not possible if pregnant). That is of course only an issue until about week 25...


Not necessarily week 25 - sometimes much eariler

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Reply #95 posted 04/11/17 7:21am

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Government should keep us safe from bad meat.

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Reply #96 posted 04/11/17 8:00am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Government should keep us safe from bad meat.

that's what she said... and you say it is bad and there is some study that shows a modest risk increase but is that on its face a basis to ban? i would say since you believe this then you can use that info to make your decisions.


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Reply #97 posted 04/11/17 9:18am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Government should keep us safe from bad meat.

that's what she said... and you say it is bad and there is some study that shows a modest risk increase but is that on its face a basis to ban? i would say since you believe this then you can use that info to make your decisions.


You really are paranoid. No-one has called for a ban. Just safe, ethical farming where animals are treated with respect - but you don't want that because you want your animals treated badly so you can eat them cheap, even at a cost to your own health. So in your world there are two losers, yourself and the animal. Sometimes I wonder who gave us humans the right to demand so much meat to gorge on, forgoing any compassion or care for the kindly, innocent creatures who are at the wrong end of this sick industry. Yes, the goverment should keep us safe, but moreover, they should keep the animals safe too.

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Reply #98 posted 04/11/17 9:37am

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maplenpg said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

that's what she said... and you say it is bad and there is some study that shows a modest risk increase but is that on its face a basis to ban? i would say since you believe this then you can use that info to make your decisions.


You really are paranoid. No-one has called for a ban. Just safe, ethical farming where animals are treated with respect - but you don't want that because you want your animals treated badly so you can eat them cheap, even at a cost to your own health. So in your world there are two losers, yourself and the animal. Sometimes I wonder who gave us humans the right to demand so much meat to gorge on, forgoing any compassion or care for the kindly, innocent creatures who are at the wrong end of this sick industry. Yes, the goverment should keep us safe, but moreover, they should keep the animals safe too.

2freaky did on reply #81! and saying you want it to be SAFE certainly, suggest banning the current process used.

and it is a total falsehood to say I want animals treated poorly. the rest is just an unhinged rant... oh and the last bit... for one the federal government has no actual authority to keep us safe in the manner you seem to be suggesting... and 2 to say the fed ought to keep animals safe? hummm no.

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Reply #99 posted 04/11/17 11:03am

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maplenpg said:

You really are paranoid. No-one has called for a ban. Just safe, ethical farming where animals are treated with respect - but you don't want that because you want your animals treated badly so you can eat them cheap, even at a cost to your own health. So in your world there are two losers, yourself and the animal. Sometimes I wonder who gave us humans the right to demand so much meat to gorge on, forgoing any compassion or care for the kindly, innocent creatures who are at the wrong end of this sick industry. Yes, the goverment should keep us safe, but moreover, they should keep the animals safe too.

2freaky did on reply #81! and saying you want it to be SAFE certainly, suggest banning the current process used.

and it is a total falsehood to say I want animals treated poorly. the rest is just an unhinged rant... oh and the last bit... for one the federal government has no actual authority to keep us safe in the manner you seem to be suggesting... and 2 to say the fed ought to keep animals safe? hummm no.

Maybe you don't want them treated poorly but you are turning a blind eye to the fact that they are being treated poorly:

reply #9 " If giving a chicken hormones makes it grow 3 times faster and saves me a $1 a pound cool! "

reply #35 (when I suggested you pay the extra $1) "Fuck that chicken"

and you were ranting about a ban well before #81!

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Reply #100 posted 04/11/17 11:13am

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maplenpg said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky did on reply #81! and saying you want it to be SAFE certainly, suggest banning the current process used.

and it is a total falsehood to say I want animals treated poorly. the rest is just an unhinged rant... oh and the last bit... for one the federal government has no actual authority to keep us safe in the manner you seem to be suggesting... and 2 to say the fed ought to keep animals safe? hummm no.

Maybe you don't want them treated poorly but you are turning a blind eye to the fact that they are being treated poorly:

reply #9 " If giving a chicken hormones makes it grow 3 times faster and saves me a $1 a pound cool! "

reply #35 (when I suggested you pay the extra $1) "Fuck that chicken"

and you were ranting about a ban well before #81!



#9 show how giving them a hormone harms them or hurt them or makes them nervous

#35 was somewhat just being weird... but again i do not believe the hormones or antibiotics harms them at all and i do not believe that they are even cognizant of being cramped or hot or whatever

i was speaking of my opinion on groups like food inc and why would someone post this topic if not in support of a ban of the process? so yeah i was correct in saying that some want a ban including 2freaky and you! you said the givenrment should protect us and chickens from these processes and methods... that means to no longer do them which means a ban or effective ban... so your calim that i am paranoid for saying things proven to be true...

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Reply #101 posted 04/11/17 12:05pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

maplenpg said:

Maybe you don't want them treated poorly but you are turning a blind eye to the fact that they are being treated poorly:

reply #9 " If giving a chicken hormones makes it grow 3 times faster and saves me a $1 a pound cool! "

reply #35 (when I suggested you pay the extra $1) "Fuck that chicken"

and you were ranting about a ban well before #81!



#9 show how giving them a hormone harms them or hurt them or makes them nervous

#35 was somewhat just being weird... but again i do not believe the hormones or antibiotics harms them at all and i do not believe that they are even cognizant of being cramped or hot or whatever

i was speaking of my opinion on groups like food inc and why would someone post this topic if not in support of a ban of the process? so yeah i was correct in saying that some want a ban including 2freaky and you! you said the givenrment should protect us and chickens from these processes and methods... that means to no longer do them which means a ban or effective ban... so your calim that i am paranoid for saying things proven to be true...

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I once spoke to someone at length who worked with abuse victims. She said that most child victims were not aware (or even cognizant) that what they were being subjected to was wrong. How it was up to the professionals to show the victims (and sometimes the abusers) that what was normal in their lives was not the right way to live.

So, maybe the chickens are not cognizant (I disagree) but it is up to the people to demand that cruel practises of keeping chickens in cramped, hot conditions are stopped. That chickens, at the very least, have a floor beneath them and room to flap their wings, that they have access to daylight and fresh air and clean water.

It really saddens me that you have such shallow feelings for the animal that has been sacrificed for your pleasure, but we will never agree - you obviously don't see the cruelty that you are condoning. I'm done - enjoy your chicken wings (that you got on special).

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Reply #102 posted 04/11/17 12:08pm

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maplenpg said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



#9 show how giving them a hormone harms them or hurt them or makes them nervous

#35 was somewhat just being weird... but again i do not believe the hormones or antibiotics harms them at all and i do not believe that they are even cognizant of being cramped or hot or whatever

i was speaking of my opinion on groups like food inc and why would someone post this topic if not in support of a ban of the process? so yeah i was correct in saying that some want a ban including 2freaky and you! you said the givenrment should protect us and chickens from these processes and methods... that means to no longer do them which means a ban or effective ban... so your calim that i am paranoid for saying things proven to be true...

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[Edited 4/11/17 12:06pm]

well said

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Reply #103 posted 04/11/17 12:49pm

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maplenpg said:

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[Edited 4/11/17 12:06pm]

well said

See my edited version. This thread has run its course.

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Reply #104 posted 04/11/17 1:52pm

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maplenpg said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well said

See my edited version. This thread has run its course.

so you compare the size of a chicken coop to child molestation?

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Reply #105 posted 04/11/17 2:22pm

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maplenpg said:

See my edited version. This thread has run its course.

so you compare the size of a chicken coop to child molestation?

Re-read it. Good day.

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Reply #106 posted 04/13/17 12:53am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Government should keep us safe from bad meat.

that's what she said... and you say it is bad and there is some study that shows a modest risk increase but is that on its face a basis to ban? i would say since you believe this then you can use that info to make your decisions.


Isn't it the same reasoning to ban asbestos? Make microwaves radiation leak proof? Put seatbelts in cars along with turn signals? Install traffic lights and lanes? Require doctors to have rigorous training? Because people are too stupid to take care of themselves and then the cost of cleanup/disposal for the dead body is a problem for others.

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Reply #107 posted 04/13/17 2:59am

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2freaky4church1 said:

According to the NIH. You are 18 percent more likely to get rectal cancer everytime you eat deli meats. omg.

18% more likely then WHAT?

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Reply #108 posted 04/13/17 6:27am

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TweetyV6 said:

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According to the NIH. You are 18 percent more likely to get rectal cancer everytime you eat deli meats. omg.

18% more likely then WHAT?

than not eating it I guess? but it is all a scam to push for more regulations and restrictions on what we are allowed to eat. It is meant to be emotional and appeal to the sense of "we are all in this together" "what affects one affects all."

We know this to be the case because 1) the topic title suggests that if I eat it then I put others at risk by the use of "Smoking" as that plays into the myth that second-hand smoke is just as bad if not worst than smoking *something for which there is NO basis at all* Now there might be some risk but it can not be worst. 2) several have said it! Several have said but it harms us all as we pay the cost of heath care and it creates more antibiotic resistant bacteria. 3) 2Freaky said he wants a bad. and others have said they want "safe" meat! Or that the government should keep animals "safe" all that suggests they want an effective if not actual ban on meat.

In the movie food inc they actually say they want the cost of chicken to be so high that no one will buy it and the industry will die. and they are a political action group. and they are liars too!

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Reply #109 posted 04/14/17 10:22am

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Amazing documentary.

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