independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Wed 18th Oct 2017 7:44am
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Politics & Religion > The Universe's Expansion: Implications About God?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 4 of 4 <1234
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #90 posted 04/11/17 6:07pm

Ingela

morningsong said:



Ingela said:


morningsong said:



I don't think it's "trying" to kill us, just that we a very vulnerable. We require a lot to exist, yet here we are.

Ok, you lost me on our leaking atmosphere, unless you are talking about the ozone layer, man-made problem, nature has it on the mend as we speak. Don't know anything about our magnetic fields changing, I know there was some boogus stuff on the internet over the last few years but the magnetic field polarity change happens all the time, life doesn't notice, well birds might, we don't.





Our atmosphere is constantly leaking into space. The magnetic fields change. We still have a lot to understand about our magnetic fields. That's why Mars is so important to understand. It's thought its atmosphere was at lit thicker at some point and like our own, leaked off into space. It's magnetic field is also thought to have been stronger at one point, protecting itself and its atmosphere. It is important to understand Mars so we know if we will meet the same fate. [Edited 4/11/17 16:51pm]


ESA stuff. I see. Well we're far from danger right now, but okay sure. Personally, I'm all for getting out there. In fact we are behind schedule as far as I'm concerned. We should be navigating the solar system by now. Fresh water problems, mineral problems, land problems, agricultural problems all can be answered as we move outward.



No i think those problems are internal. If those specific concerns cannot be addressed here then we're truly fucked.

I do believe we need to send out probes to study and explore our solar system and the universe. But we're on a nice ass boat. It's gorgeous, and it has everything we could ever want. We just need to take care of it as BEST as we can and not be looking at life boats as a solution. We need to invest more on science and education. That's our solution.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #91 posted 04/11/17 6:36pm

morningsong

avatar

Ingela said:

morningsong said:


ESA stuff. I see. Well we're far from danger right now, but okay sure. Personally, I'm all for getting out there. In fact we are behind schedule as far as I'm concerned. We should be navigating the solar system by now. Fresh water problems, mineral problems, land problems, agricultural problems all can be answered as we move outward.

No i think those problems are internal. If those specific concerns cannot be addressed here then we're truly fucked. I do believe we need to send out probes to study and explore our solar system and the universe. But we're on a nice ass boat. It's gorgeous, and it has everything we could ever want. We just need to take care of it as BEST as we can and not be looking at life boats as a solution. We need to invest more on science and education. That's our solution.



But we're not concentrating on solving them, that's a problem in it's self. Evidence shows that getting great minds to think on solving other complex problems, such as how to get to outer space, result in solutions to old everyday problems here. It's just the way it is. It's called inspiration. Many medical inventions are not because a group of people sat around trying to come up with a solution to whatever that medical need was, usually it's because something happened for a completely unrelated issue and then it was thought about how the same thing could be utilized in other areas. That's how we work. We do better in a inspired creative mode than crisis mode.

While we fantasize about terraforming Mars, a feat that is downright impossible right now, the ideas that spring from that mental exercise will spring whole industries of what to do here. Right now those minds are not being engaged for one reason or another.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #92 posted 04/11/17 7:00pm

Ingela

^
I agree with everything you said. But again, the problems you mentioned previously are ones humanity has to solve here. There is no hope for us if we cannot.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #93 posted 04/11/17 7:14pm

morningsong

avatar

Ingela said:

^ I agree with everything you said. But again, the problems you mentioned previously are ones humanity has to solve here. There is no hope for us if we cannot.



Agreed.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #94 posted 04/12/17 1:08am

RicoN

avatar

IanRG said:

RicoN said:

the Abrahamic god. the one the humans made up on that little planet earth, when we had even less understanding. Come on Ian, it's slapping you in the face.

I was careful to put that in, I know how you cling to the shard of possibility that not ever being able to know for certain gives you.


But I know you don't read properly and don't really care for subtleties if they derail your rant.

.

So you know that God is made up? No you don't - you assume this because it fits your religious beliefs.

.

You limiting this to the "Abrahamic God" was not this amazingly subtle argument that I missed. It was just your targeting of specific believers. Are we to assume you think other gods are not made up? Obviously not. Are we to assume you believe other knowledge about gods developed more recently is more correct? Again obviously not. Pretending that it is me who is not reading properly when you thought this was a completely different topic because you misread the question is fooling no one.

.

Your statement was simply self-serving and wrong. That we don't know everything about the universe - a learned knowledge, says nothing about whether a revealed knowledge is correct or not.



knob off Ian, I can't be arsed anymore.

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #95 posted 04/16/17 5:57am

Dasein

This page has been updated over at SEP:

Cosmology and Theology

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #96 posted 04/20/17 12:02pm

PURplEMaPLeSyr
up

avatar

Dasein said:


According to NASA eggheads, the universe is still expanding, and expanding at a rate faster than
previously understood. (source)

For you theists, what are the theological implications here? Think about it this way: how can you
give a definitive statement about the quality of a chef and her meal if it is still cooking?

That the cosmos continues to unfold into new dimensions blows my mind; I can't wrap my head
around it. But it does speak to what we can say about God and whether or not God is immutable,
or gains new knowledge; or knows the future.


well, if God spoke the universe into existence, maybe it means God is still speaking, or that speech reverberates a long while, or that theres a new purple angel in God's choir wink maybe more people are praying, maybe more prophets are prophesying. i'm just speculating.
flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 4 of 4 <1234
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Politics & Religion > The Universe's Expansion: Implications About God?