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Reply #60 posted 09/28/18 1:02pm

PeteSilas

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JoeyC said:




I definitely hear what you're saying but most likely Cosby won't be in general population. Because of his age, his health problems, his crimes and his social status, he'll probably be in a special needs yard(or prison), and with a bunch of older people who are in poor health. He definitely could still get attacked though. Some white power racist might try to make an example of cosby. Most likely though, what could possibly do him in is just the general stress of being in prison.

\Will Philly penal system take some measure's to tend to his medical needs, yes. State Penitentiary systems doesn't babysit inmates, irrespective of who they are. The older you are the more vulnerable you are in prison; guards can compound that misery. The fact that Cosby wealthy, inmates will attempt to exploit him at every turn.

i wonder if they'll remind him of the poundcake speech. poor bill, i don't care what no one says, it's pathetic seeing a formidable man brought down that low. It happens because, like I said, we do have a mob mentality in us. You ever see the footage of mussolini, dead, getting a boot in the face? or quadaffi begging his "sons" to have mercy? humans are vile, so, cosby has to deal with a facet of humanity that is as vile as he is, at a time when he can hardly manage anymore. pathetic. I guess it's life though, sometimes I'll see an old man and wonder if he deserves kindness just because he's old and i wonder what kinda shit he mighta done when he was young. and it works the other way, I used to do security, i'd have to arrest old men who stole, one time a cop made a motion like he was going to kick the old guy, my first thought was that someday that would happen to him. I don't believe in karma but sometimes it does happen.

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Reply #61 posted 09/28/18 5:24pm

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Reply #62 posted 09/28/18 6:13pm

onlyforaminute

stop it

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Reply #63 posted 09/28/18 6:46pm

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[Edited 9/28/18 17:26pm]



Crazy stuff. At least they had sense enough to not include Raven Symone. eek

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #64 posted 09/28/18 8:22pm

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JoeyC said:




I definitely hear what you're saying but most likely Cosby won't be in general population. Because of his age, his health problems, his crimes and his social status, he'll probably be in a special needs yard(or prison), and with a bunch of older people who are in poor health. He definitely could still get attacked though. Some white power racist might try to make an example of cosby. Most likely though, what could possibly do him in is just the general stress of being in prison.

\Will Philly penal system take some measure's to tend to his medical needs, yes. State Penitentiary systems doesn't babysit inmates, irrespective of who they are. The older you are the more vulnerable you are in prison; guards can compound that misery. The fact that Cosby wealthy, inmates will attempt to exploit him at every turn.



It's interesting how prisons and prison life(or prison politics) varies from state to state. Federal prison life is fairly consistent from state to state but state prison life can vary widely(from individual states, and from different prisons within a state). I've known many people(way more than 10) who've done prison time and prison is someplace i never would want to end up. Not necessarily because of how violent prison can be but just because of the lack of freedom...I'm not proud to say this but i have been to jail before(28 years ago, and i did about 3 months). And as a minor i did a few years(total time, and mainly juvenile delinquent stuff). And for me, the main things that kept me from ever going back to jail were simple things. Things like the food, the noise, the smells, the lack of privacy, the strip searches(i hated that), etc. No doubt the potential for violence was also a factor, but the other reasons were much more of a deterrent to keep me from going back. Violence wise, being in prison can be a total different experience than being in jail(sometimes better, and sometimes worse), but overall, just about anybody can survive prison(as it relates to being a victim of violence). It all depends on a persons crime, their gang affiliation(if they have any, or not), if they are involved with drugs, gambling, sex etc, while in prison, and what prison they are at. All that stuff makes a difference. I know someone who is like 5ft5, 150 pounds and who can't fight a lick, but he's been to prison(and some pretty dangerous ones) a few times, and never became a victim. So, again, it all depends on a lot of factors.


Also, just within the past few months, one of my cousins(James York, Fresno) was sentenced to 14 years in federal prison , in a high profile case. Also one of my other relatives worked for 30 years as a Correctional officer(in California). I also knew two guys who ended up in prison and both ended up being murdered(in two separate incidents). I also knew this other dude who committed suicide in prison. He couldn't take the stress(from what i heard).


Anyway...in regard to Cosby's time in prison, its all a crapshoot(in part because he's famous). I think he's legally blind, so that will be a big influence on where he's eventually housed(if its a different section of where he's at now, or if they send him to another location). I know here in California, if its a person's first time in prison, they're initially sent to a reception prison. Then once assessed, are usually sent elsewhere. Pennsylvania might be different, but i would be extremely surprised if Cosby was held(or sent) in the prison's general population. Also, my personal belief is that if Cosby does get attacked, it will either be by someone of a different race than him, or someone with mental health issues(of any race). Rapists are hated in prison, but they do survive.


Regardless, i have no skin in the game. Over the past few years I've voiced my opinions about Cosby(and they are not good). Dude did some evil shit but i don't want to see him get mistreated in prison. It would probably take a few life times for him to atone for what he has done, but he's most definitely suffering now. And probably will until his dying day. And that probably wont be too long from now.


So...Cosby better put his millions to good use and pay off everybody...guards, inmates, the warden etc, and just chill.

[Edited 9/29/18 1:33am]

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Reply #65 posted 09/29/18 5:34am

peggyon

onlyforaminute said:

PennyPurple said:

He will probably get the VIP treatment in prison, most celebrities do.



Martha Stewart didn't. He won't.

He received a very light sentence. He has been ducking this for a long time.

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Reply #66 posted 09/29/18 12:38pm

PeteSilas

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onlyforaminute said:



Martha Stewart didn't. He won't.

He received a very light sentence. He has been ducking this for a long time.

it's true, there are two ways that I look at it, 1. that they broke every rule they could to get him, unsealed documents, used one document from a civil case to use in a criminal case, judge joe brown has detailed this better than I could. I knew instinctively that it doesn't make sense. but the second way I look at it is, if he raped hundreds of women (most likely women who were raped never came forward) he's actually getting away with hundreds of years of crimes.

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Reply #67 posted 09/30/18 4:11pm

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Reply #68 posted 10/01/18 1:11pm

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Can't wear those sweaters any more.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #69 posted 10/01/18 1:11pm

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Explains Raven's hair.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #70 posted 10/01/18 4:10pm

Number23

Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.

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Reply #71 posted 10/01/18 4:14pm

onlyforaminute

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Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.




Stop exaggerating not one comment on this thread is defending what he did. Not one.
"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

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Reply #72 posted 10/01/18 4:23pm

PeteSilas

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Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.


How dare you call him a cunt you prick
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Reply #73 posted 10/01/18 4:23pm

Number23

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Number23 said:

Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.

Stop exaggerating not one comment on this thread is defending what he did. Not one.

Anyone who suggests Bill Cosby doesn't deserve to die in a hole is certainly defending him, sonny jim. You don't have to support someone's actions to defend them. He deserves a far worse fate than a roof, four walls and hot food every day for the rest of his days. He's a monster and should be treated accordingly.

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Reply #74 posted 10/01/18 4:24pm

Number23

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Number23 said:

Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.

How dare you call him a cunt you prick [Edited 10/1/18 16:23pm]

Because he's a serial rapist.

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Reply #75 posted 10/01/18 4:29pm

Number23

Come on Pete, don't overthink it, let it out. Let your heart reveal itself without the brain getting involved.

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Reply #76 posted 10/01/18 4:30pm

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Number23 said:

PeteSilas said:

Number23 said: How dare you call him a cunt you prick [Edited 10/1/18 16:23pm]

Because he's a serial rapist.



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Reply #77 posted 10/01/18 5:22pm

onlyforaminute

Number23 said:



onlyforaminute said:


Number23 said:

Folk on here defending this cunt? Even Jesus would throw the key away.



Stop exaggerating not one comment on this thread is defending what he did. Not one.

Anyone who suggests Bill Cosby doesn't deserve to die in a hole is certainly defending him, sonny jim. You don't have to support someone's actions to defend them. He deserves a far worse fate than a roof, four walls and hot food every day for the rest of his days. He's a monster and should be treated accordingly.




If DeAngelo gets protective custody than Cosby should too.
"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

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Reply #78 posted 10/02/18 2:46pm

peggyon

onlyforaminute said:

Graciegirl719 said:

You and OJ should be friends, as he said the exact same thing. I'm done talking.



OJ wasn't a feeble old man. Apples and oranges.

He is still privileged. He'll be separated from the other inmates.

He misled an entire nation...hypocrite and likely sociopath

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Reply #79 posted 10/02/18 2:51pm

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onlyforaminute said:

Number23 said:

Anyone who suggests Bill Cosby doesn't deserve to die in a hole is certainly defending him, sonny jim. You don't have to support someone's actions to defend them. He deserves a far worse fate than a roof, four walls and hot food every day for the rest of his days. He's a monster and should be treated accordingly.

If DeAngelo gets protective custody than Cosby should too.

Exactly who is that you are talking about?

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Reply #80 posted 10/02/18 4:36pm

onlyforaminute

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onlyforaminute said:

Number23 said: If DeAngelo gets protective custody than Cosby should too.

Exactly who is that you are talking about?



A 76 year old man whose severe crimes have finally caught up to him.

"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

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Reply #81 posted 10/02/18 4:41pm

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onlyforaminute said:

kpowers said:

Exactly who is that you are talking about?



A 76 year old man whose severe crimes have finally caught up to him.

Is that the DNA guy?????

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Reply #82 posted 10/02/18 5:04pm

onlyforaminute

kpowers said:

onlyforaminute said:



A 76 year old man whose severe crimes have finally caught up to him.

Is that the DNA guy?????


I'm not sure what you mean by that. All I know is he's a "supposed" serial rapist and killer who was finally caught and is going to trial very soon.

"You want to know your biggest fault? You don’t keep true accounts: you put a high value on what you’ve given, a low value on what you’ve received."

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Reply #83 posted 10/02/18 5:12pm

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kpowers said:

Is that the DNA guy?????


I'm not sure what you mean by that. All I know is he's a "supposed" serial rapist and killer who was finally caught and is going to trial very soon.

investigators: DNA from genealogy site caught Golden State Killer suspect

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - More than three decades after his trail went cold, one of California's most prolific and elusive serial killers was caught when investigators matched crime-scene DNA with genetic material stored by a relative on an online genealogical site, prosecutors said Thursday.

Authorities have said the DNA tied former police officer Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, to most of the 12 killings he is accused of committing between 1976 and 1986 as part of the Golden State Killer case.

Investigators also allege DeAngelo raped more than 50 women during that period.

Companies such as Ancestry.com and 23andMe charge customers to use their DNA to produce genetic profiles that determine ethnicity and can identify long-lost relatives, among other services. Both companies said Thursday they weren't involved in the case against DeAngelo.

Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said investigators surreptitiously obtained his DNA last week from discarded material that ended up matching DNA at crime scenes.

Police received thousands of tips over the years, but DeAngelo's name had not been on the radar of law enforcement before last week, Schubert said.

In other developments Thursday, police in Visalia said DeAngelo is a suspect in the 1975 killing of community college teacher Claude Snelling in the farming community about 40 miles (64 kilometers) south of Fresno

If the link is confirmed, it would boost the number of victims to 13 in the serial killing case.

DeAngelo worked as a police officer in nearby Exeter from 1973 to 1976, and police in the region believe he also is the Visalia Ransacker, responsible for the death of Snelling, who was fatally shot while stopping someone from kidnapping his 16-year-old daughter, and about 100 burglaries.

Visalia police Chief Jason Salazar said Snelling's death and the region's burglaries weren't part of the tally of crimes authorities released Wednesday in the serial killing case because investigators lacked DNA evidence on those crimes.

Salazar said fingerprints and shoe tracks will be eyed for matches to DeAngelo. Detectives are also looking to see if any items taken during the Visalia burglaries are uncovered during the investigation.

In addition, DeAngelo matches the description of Snelling's killer, Salazar said, and the attacker used sophisticated pry tools to gain entrance to locked homes, just as authorities say DeAngelo did in other crimes.

The culprit also wore a ski mask and eluded capture because of an apparent deep-knowledge of police work.

"He always had a good escape route," Salazar said.

Farrel Ward, 75, served on the Exeter Police Department with DeAngelo. Ward called him a "black sheep," saying he was quiet and didn't fit in with other officers.

Ward said it's possible that DeAngelo helped with a search in a killing he's now suspected of committing. Ward doesn't recall DeAngelo directly working on the case but said it's possible he joined the hunt for the killer.

Ward said he thought DeAngelo was overqualified for the small-town job because he graduated from Sacramento State with a degree in criminal justice.

"He knew everything about everything, but he didn't have common sense about him," Ward said

Investigators searched DeAngelo's home on Thursday, looking for class rings, earrings, dishes and other items that were taken from crime scenes.

Authorities were also seeking weapons and other items that could link the suspect to the crimes, Sacramento County sheriff's Lt. Paul Belli said. He declined to say what, if anything, investigators had found.

Retired FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt said he and others have speculated that the serial killer had police or military training because of the sophistication of the crimes and the suspect's ability to elude capture.

DeAngelo had both. He served six years as a police officer after serving for nearly two years in the Navy during the Vietnam War. After leaving the Exeter police department, he joined the Auburn Police Department outside Sacramento. Auburn fired him in 1979 after he was caught shoplifting a hammer and dog repellent.

Investigators have linked DeAngelo to 11 killings that occurred after he was fired.

"There may have been a revenge aspect to it," Van Zandt said of the crimes. "He was going to show police that he was smarter than any of them and that it was a mistake to fire him."

Investigators said DeAngelo appeared to stop killing and raping after 1986 and settled down to steady employment and a middle-class life.

Profilers have said most serial killers usually don't stop until they die or get arrested, but a few have voluntarily quit.

Scientists developed a way to identify rapists and others through DNA fingerprinting in 1986, the same year as the last attack by the Golden State Killer.

Experts noted that DeAngelo likely knew about the highly publicized DNA breakthrough.

"He knew police techniques," said John Jay College of Criminal Justice professor Louis Schlesinger. "He was smart."

James Huddle said he always hoped police would catch the killer whose attacks prompted him to buy a pistol.

But he was stunned to find out the man arrested was DeAngelo, his former brother-in-law.

Huddle said it was "still just going crazy in my mind."

[Edited 10/2/18 17:41pm]

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Reply #84 posted 10/04/18 3:33pm

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can he pay people in jail with him for protection???

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Reply #85 posted 10/04/18 5:58pm

PeteSilas

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can he pay people in jail with him for protection???

i'm sure he could somehow. I wonder if he'll need it. I hear so many conflicting stories about prisons.

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Reply #86 posted 10/04/18 9:04pm

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So when will he be eligible for parole?

3 years

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Reply #87 posted 10/04/18 9:12pm

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Bill Cosby will serve his time, as HE SHOULD! IN PRISON! Because if an 89 year old Whitey Bulger can do it, so can Bill..... and besides, Bill will spend 10 minutes in jail for every rape committed. He is lucky to not have gotten more time because he had SIXTY accusers/victims of rape. So relatively speaking, he did come out of this as unscathed as a person can afte so many people come forward with those allegations.

Whitey Bulger (jailed when he was 81 also) sill spend the rest of his life in prison.... Bill is looking at 3-5 years max. He is stronger than he looks and this will not kill him. Mind over matter type thing. Yes, this is a sad situation, one he created for himself. He will get through this.

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Reply #88 posted 10/05/18 4:57pm

onlyforaminute

Celebs who've done prison.



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Reply #89 posted 10/05/18 11:41pm

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PeteSilas said:



luvsexy4all said:


can he pay people in jail with him for protection???



i'm sure he could somehow. I wonder if he'll need it. I hear so many conflicting stories about prisons.


I can't speak for American prisons as I'm in the UK but here he'd be classed as a vulnerable prisoner and housed with other vulnerable prisoners. This does not mean preferential treatment in any way, nor does it involve being separated (from other vulnerable prisoners). It's likely that he will be befriended by other prisoners and will pay protection in some form- that might not necessarily be with money (which is usually transferred between two parties on the outside) or material items (chocolate bars, phonecards etc...), but might take the form of entertaining them (comedy and life stories, not 'entertaining' them). He'll undoubtedly be advised against paying a financial cost, both by his legal team and prison staff as the costs of illicit protection can quickly spiral. Joey is right, it is the noise,the lack of freedom, the lack of sleep, lack of privacy etc... that is the hardest to overcome and a lot of it will boil down to if he attempts to integrate or not.
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